FOOTBALL IS FOR SISSIES

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:41 am

Forget this capitalist game between two opposing teams of ballooning salaries and diminishing IQ bozos, let's get down to the REAL contest: Philadelphia or Boston: Who has had, and continues to, the better orchestra!!!! Bias is welcome, throw down like a couple of school yard punks, take the gloves off and LETS GET IT ON!!!!

My Choice: Philly. The orchestra that gave us the ubiquitous BAT, Ormandy, the best recording of Prokofiev 5th and not a Frenchman in sight. Take that you snobby, uppercrust, smarmy whiny, poopheads. AND, what do Boston baked Beans and Boston Creme Pie have over a good old Philly Cheesesteak. BREAD, MEAT, CHEESE!!!!!!!! LONG LIVE THE PROLETARIAT!!!!

Chuck"tongue planted firmy in cheek"Jackson

KevinBock · Post by **KevinBock** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:18 am

Tough call on this one. Philly Low Brass has been awesome but I dont know its tough to compare to Norman Bolter, Doug Yeo, and Mike Roylance. Not to mention Boston's recordings of the Ring Operas are far superior to anything else out there. I'm from Jersey so I should like Philly more, but I hate the town and I say Boston if for nothing more than Seiji Osawa's recording of Elektra. But cmon its just a comparison of amazing orchestra or fantastic orchestra.

Leland · Post by **Leland** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:17 pm

You guys know that if we keep naming names, we'll end up with some form of Fantasy Orchestra League or something...

(some people already do fantasy drum corps with the scores through the season.. lol)

Dylan King · Post by **Dylan King** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:01 pm

First of all, football is as tough as rugby. Probably even more dangerous. They wear the gear for a reason. How many 380 pound black dudes have you seen playing Rugby?

As far as orchestras go, I vote for Boston. It's a tough choice because I would never want to live in Boston or Philly. I pick Boston because I have heard them in person and the city does not have Allen Iverson living there.

Leland · Post by **Leland** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:15 pm

Supposedly there are lower injury rates in rugby than there are in American football. Yes, even with minimal protection.

The best I can figure is that they hit a lot harder in football because they feel so safe. They may get fewer bruises, but the skeletal & muscle structure still has to support the shock (pads are just pads, not an exoskeleton), and that's where the major injuries happen.

Rugby players do bounce around & grapple, but they don't go out and clock each other to the dirt. They're a little more careful because the "hit giver" has no protection either. In fact, it's against the rules -- I saw a New Zeland player drop his shoulder to execute a typical football-style hit on a ball carrier (a good hit, too, but nothing unusual in football), and it drew an immediate foul and critical commentary from the TV guys.

The same idea shows why there were worse injuries in school gymnasiums when they started putting padded mats on the walls behind the basketball goals. Players think that they can just hit the pads and be okay, but they end up with injured ligaments and other rehab-level injuries.

ANYWAY... back to the symphony shootout...

Captain Sousie · Post by **Captain Sousie** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:49 am

MellowSmokeMan wrote:How many 380 pound black dudes have you seen playing Rugby?

Four on the same field. At the NCAA rugby tourney when the UWyo rugby team played (actually, they were more like 325 but hey). They had 2 and the other team had 2. They also had a few 250+ pound players on the team last time I checked. They play hard and the reason that there are fewer injuries is that they don't take the stupid hits that get a lot of football players hurt. It isn't about not hitting as hard, it's about knowing how to hit and to take the hits.

Rugby forever

Sou

Leland · Post by **Leland** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:00 am

Hell, in bullriding, I cheer for the bull. The smaller the better, cuz they're faster.

Captain Sousie · Post by **Captain Sousie** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:45 pm

I'll second the bullriding, but I'd rather watch it in my home town of Laramie Wyoming at the Jubilee Days rodeo. I'll take the Daddy Of 'Em All (Cheyenne Forntier Days) as a pretty good second.

Sou

tubaman5150 · Post by **tubaman5150** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:49 pm

Hey Sousie,
Your in Cheyenne? I have a good tuba playing buddy named Tom Szott from there. You know him?

Captain Sousie · Post by **Captain Sousie** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:10 pm

tubaman5150 wrote:Hey Sousie,
Your in Cheyenne? I have a good tuba playing buddy named Tom Szott from there. You know him?

No, but I would love to be able to connect with other tuba players in the area.

Sousie

Captain Sousie · Post by **Captain Sousie** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:11 pm

schlepporello wrote:Boy, I'll bet that's a good'n for sure. If I'm ever up that way I'll have to check it out.

If you do come up and need a place to stay, drop me a line and I can set you up.

Sousie

RyanSchultz · Post by **RyanSchultz** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:14 pm

Football for sissies?

Want to play Chuck (maybe in Walla2 this summer. . .)?

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:14 pm

Only if we play Australian Rules Football, a particularly demented take on Rugby. Gotta come to Vegas. A little sun stroke is good for the soul.

Chuck"Who thinks digital cable is a hoot just for Australian Rules Football and Filipino Soap Operas in Tagalog"Jackson

TMurphy · Post by **TMurphy** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:38 pm

The orchestra conductor here at my school is from Australia. I had a conversation last year with him, when I was taking conducting lessons, about Aussie Rules Football (actually...during a conducting lesson....might explain why I'm not such a great conductor...). Really cool sounding sport, although I didn't get too much of the logisitics from what he was telling me (although, I certainly understood more of that than he understood when I tried to explain baseball....)