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Roman Cornus

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:37 pm
by Ace
Here's a link to things long ago. I found it interesting, probably because I skipped coffee this morning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cornu_Aalen.JPG" target="_blank

I wonder if there was a low brass culture in ancient Rome similar to our own TubeNet crowd. Did they worry about what key their instrument was in? Bore. Lacquer or silver. Gig bags and stands. Chinese clones. Repairmen. Etc.

Ace

Re: Roman Cornus

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:09 pm
by iiipopes
One thing for sure: being over the shoulder, and facing bell-front

SOUSAPHONES RULE! FOR OVER 2000 YEARS!

Re: Roman Cornus

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:42 pm
by OldsRecording
Ace wrote:Here's a link to things long ago. I found it interesting, probably because I skipped coffee this morning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cornu_Aalen.JPG" target="_blank" target="_blank

I wonder if there was a low brass culture in ancient Rome similar to our own TubeNet crowd. Did they worry about what key their instrument was in? Bore. Lacquer or silver. Gig bags and stands. Chinese clones. Repairmen. Etc.

Ace
Yes, but how were the false tones, or as they called them 'falsum tonis'?

Re: Roman Cornus

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:41 pm
by Ace
Bill,
The false tones were terrifying and were reserved for battle music to frighten the enemy forces. Don't tell anyone here on the board, but I know these things because I'm in touch by time warp technology with Sgt. Marcus Lacasextus, a musician in Nero's Fourth Legion Band-Rome. (He says Nero is a big music fan and one "hot" musician in his own right.) Marcus is disappointed in available mouthpieces, but is conferring with a guy in town for an improved model. He knows it will be a success because players love to change mouthpieces all the time, thinking the change will solve all their performance problems.
Ace

Re: Roman Cornus

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:12 am
by ralphbsz
Does it come in a 5-valve model? Controlling intonation low down is pretty difficult without that fifth valve.

Re: Roman Cornus

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:09 am
by Ace
ralphbsz wrote:Does it come in a 5-valve model? Controlling intonation low down is pretty difficult without that fifth valve.
Yeah, I know what you mean, but the time warp almost self-destructed when Sgt Marcus said, "What's intonation? What's a valve?"

Ace

Re: Roman Cornus

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 3:26 am
by iiipopes
Ace wrote:Bill,
The false tones were terrifying and were reserved for battle music to frighten the enemy forces. Don't tell anyone here on the board, but I know these things because I'm in touch by time warp technology with Sgt. Marcus Lacasextus, a musician in Nero's Fourth Legion Band-Rome. (He says Nero is a big music fan and one "hot" musician in his own right.) Marcus is disappointed in available mouthpieces, but is conferring with a guy in town for an improved model. He knows it will be a success because players love to change mouthpieces all the time, thinking the change will solve all their performance problems.
Ace
That would be Decanus Marcus Lacasextus. And if he would have been able to play "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy," his surname might have been "Multosextus."

Re: Roman Cornus

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:26 pm
by Ace
iiipopes wrote:
Ace wrote:Bill,
The false tones were terrifying and were reserved for battle music to frighten the enemy forces. Don't tell anyone here on the board, but I know these things because I'm in touch by time warp technology with Sgt. Marcus Lacasextus, a musician in Nero's Fourth Legion Band-Rome. (He says Nero is a big music fan and one "hot" musician in his own right.) Marcus is disappointed in available mouthpieces, but is conferring with a guy in town for an improved model. He knows it will be a success because players love to change mouthpieces all the time, thinking the change will solve all their performance problems.
Ace
That would be Decanus Marcus Lacasextus. And if he would have been able to play "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy," his surname might have been "Multosextus."
Not to nitpick, Popes, but I think the rank of Decanus belongs to Sgt Marcus' section leader who is in charge of ten players.

Best, Ace

Re: Roman Cornus

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:03 pm
by iiipopes
By using the term, sergeant, it implied he was the section leader, which would make Decanus correct, especially since he was portrayed as negotiating, which the common soldier, of course, did not. Otherwise, if Marcus was just a player in the section, then he would have been called a variety of positions, depending on his duty station, including Miles.

Re: Roman Cornus

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:06 pm
by TubaRay
iiipopes wrote:By using the term, sergeant, it implied he was the section leader, which would make Decanus correct, especially since he was portrayed as negotiating, which the common soldier, of course, did not. Otherwise, if Marcus was just a player in the section, then he would have been called a variety of positions, depending on his duty station, including Miles.
If that is true, he might have been mistaken to be a trumpet player. This would not have ended well.

Re: Roman Cornus

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:48 pm
by Ace
bloke wrote:

bloke "Here's somethin' the tubenet kiddies ain't a-heard before." :wink:
Glad to see that post. It brought back memories. In 1956, I played 3rd trumpet in a Local 47 union orchestra in Hollywood that gave a concert of music by prominent southern California composers. Miklos Rosza's Theme, Variations, and Finale Op.13 was on the program. I seem to recall it was Rosza himself who conducted his own work. By the way, that recording you linked is nice----the City of Prague Orchestra sounds good.

Ace

Ace

Re: Roman Cornus

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:59 am
by tbn.al
I first thought that was the original recording, but it sounded too good. After googling I believe it to be the 2012 re-release. It certainly is well done. Powerful stuff. :D