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Airborne is good stuff, too.

zicam is some good stuff.. i use the nasal swabs.

the closest thing to a cure for the cold... imo

Google Zicam before you go too far off the deep end here.

Interesting. Since the product contains zinc, and the zinc appears to cure the cold, I submit that users who have success with this product have a chronic zinc deficiency or the product would not have any effect. Don't you know at least one person who seems to never get colds?

One way to find out....find a good nutritional-metabolic physician and get your zinc blood levels checked and corrected if necessary. It works. Been there, done that. With all the alkalizing minerals....many or most Americans are deficient in these due to the agri-business' farming methods, which only utilize "fertilizers" that will make the plants grow large, or "food" that causes the animals to grow large. Because all is sold by the pound, not by nutritional density or quality. They pay NO attention to what nutrients are needed for HUMAN nutrition because that is not financially rewarding. Note the effect of all these products on the size of the average American; what goes around, comes around.

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MA, who thinks capitalism should be limited to durable goods, and that some other system (NOT socialism) should be developed for anything and everything related to health (I like the credit union model.)

The last cold I had I tried Zicam. It worked too!
My cold was over in 7 days instead of a week.

cc_tuba_guy wrote: (I'm having flashbacks about the McDonald's coffee lawsuit. I hate stupid people. To eliminate all stupid people, we should just take out all the school zones. Think about it.)

Interesting thought! Indeed, we are presently running things in just about complete opposition to the natural selection process used by mother nature.

wnazzaro wrote:It had more to do with the fact that McD's knew their coffee could cause real damage, and did nothing about it.

So I should sue MrCoffee because my coffee pot produces very hot coffee, or Only if I spill it on my inner thigh?

And my hot water heater should be illegal, since it is capible of delivering near boiling hot water to the faucet.(mind you I don't have it set that high, but I could)

ThomasDodd wrote:

wnazzaro wrote:It had more to do with the fact that McD's knew their coffee could cause real damage, and did nothing about it.

So I should sue MrCoffee because my coffee pot produces very hot coffee, or Only if I spill it on my inner thigh?

And my hot water heater should be illegal, since it is capible of delivering near boiling hot water to the faucet.(mind you I don't have it set that high, but I could)

The most important thing to remember in understanding this is one very simple thing. No matter what happens to you, it is NEVER your own fault. So simply look around and find someone else to blame. Of course, the best choices are those who have much, much money. After all, NO ONE makes a lot of money because they deserved it or earned it. They must have cheated some poor bastards in order to get it. In fact, now that I think about it, that money should have been yours in the first place. Yea! That's it! That's the ticket!

wnazzaro wrote:So a woman accidentially spills coffee from McDonald's that is known by the company to be served hotter than the industry standard. She suffers third degree burns and goes to the hospital where the bills mount up into the thousands, to amounts that she cannot afford. I suppose she could then go into bankruptcy to cancel her debt, or she could have stopped the doctors from helping her since she didn't have the money needed to cover the bills. Of course, McDonald's has no responsibility in all of this. They just made the coffee.

Was this the first time she had drank coffee?
Had she ever got coffee from McDonald's before?
Should she have know that the coffee was hot?
Should anyone ever put a hot liquid between their legs?
Should she not have put said coffee in a drink holder instead?
For that matter, should a driver beallows to handle food/beverages while driving at all?

Look at the problems caused by cell phones. Ever see somone drop the fire off a cigarette while driving, or get ashes in their eye? Ever see somone reaching for a CD/tape on the seat/floor while driving?

Hell, I find hot and cold liquids between my legs very uncomfortable, and almost never put them there. My car didn't come with a cup holder like most newer cars do. I bought one so I didn't have a beverage between my legs.

Was teh coffee too hot? 185 deg F, sounds a bit warm sure. But then again, in the past I've got a cup, and by the time I could take a drink it was cold. Maybe it should be warmer to start with so it's not cold by the time I'm back on the road?

wnazzaro wrote:

TubaRay wrote:The most important thing to remember in understanding this is one very simple thing. No matter what happens to you, it is NEVER your own fault. So simply look around and find someone else to blame. Of course, the best choices are those who have much, much money. After all, NO ONE makes a lot of money because they deserved it or earned it. They must have cheated some poor bastards in order to get it. In fact, now that I think about it, that money should have been yours in the first place. Yea! That's it! That's the ticket!

So a woman accidentially spills coffee from McDonald's that is known by the company to be served hotter than the industry standard. She suffers third degree burns and goes to the hospital where the bills mount up into the thousands, to amounts that she cannot afford. I suppose she could then go into bankruptcy to cancel her debt, or she could have stopped the doctors from helping her since she didn't have the money needed to cover the bills. Of course, McDonald's has no responsibility in all of this. They just made the coffee.

That'll teach her.

What were her actual bills?

Does anyone know?

This is probably why the final amount was $500K. The law serves only to make you whole, not to better a person's situation.

2.3 Million is foolish. Regardless that is was McDonalds. What if the privately owned coffee shop did the same thing? We know that this lawsuit would not have reached these proportions. Just because McDonalds makes a lot of money does not make them bad.

Putting a beverage between your legs is foolish no matter hot or cold. Buy a $2 cup holder at Pep Boys or Wal Mart for your car. Or better yet, plan your day so that you don't need to get coffee in a drive "thru". OR, don't drink coffee at all, because it is simply an addictive substance with very little real benefits.

wnazzaro wrote:

TubaRay wrote:The most important thing to remember in understanding this is one very simple thing. No matter what happens to you, it is NEVER your own fault. So simply look around and find someone else to blame. Of course, the best choices are those who have much, much money. After all, NO ONE makes a lot of money because they deserved it or earned it. They must have cheated some poor bastards in order to get it. In fact, now that I think about it, that money should have been yours in the first place. Yea! That's it! That's the ticket!

So a woman accidentially spills coffee from McDonald's that is known by the company to be served hotter than the industry standard. She suffers third degree burns and goes to the hospital where the bills mount up into the thousands, to amounts that she cannot afford. I suppose she could then go into bankruptcy to cancel her debt, or she could have stopped the doctors from helping her since she didn't have the money needed to cover the bills. Of course, McDonald's has no responsibility in all of this. They just made the coffee.

Actually, this is exactly what they did! I suppose in your world she should receive help from McD's simply because she needed it in order to avoid having her bills mount up.

It seems extremely simple to me. In your world, it gets complicated. The simplicity is this: Expect coffee to be hot! If you screw up handling the hot coffee, you are the one who is responsible. Deal with it. Furthermore, no one else should then be made to cover for your screwup.

Actually, I had a somewhat similar thing happen to me. It happened at a Whataburger, not McD's. I was driving in my hometown after visiting my parents. It was almost midnight on a worknight, and I had an hour and a half drive left. I went in the the Whataburger and ordered a coffee. When I got the cup at the counter, it was steaming hot. I went over to get a napkin and put some sweetener in the coffee and proceeded to take the lid off the cup and do so. After completing this, I then began to put the lid back on the cup. When I did this the styrofoam cup completely caved, pouring hot coffee all over the front of my clothes and giving me a mild burn. Now, understand this. The cup failed to do its job properly. It was faulty. Though in pain, I realized that I had some responsibility here. I guess in your world, Bill, I would have called this to the attention of the manager, demanded to be seen at an emergency room, and later filed a lawsuit.

I believe I am beginning to see where I went wrong. I missed a chance for a possible serious redistribution of wealth. No! I don't believe this would have been proper. No matter how much I could have used the money, I don't believe this would have been right.

It appears to me that there are two distinct ways to look at things of this nature. One is that individuals have some responsibility of their own. The other is that: No matter what happens to you, it is never your own fault!

I suppose I could sue McDonald's for being fat. After all, their food made me fat...Or could it be that I chose to eat that much? Nah, it MUST be them!!! Seriously, I don't understand a lot of these lawsuits. Coffee is SUPPOSED to be hot. Their food(and many others) IS FATTENING. It sickens me to see soooooooooooooooooooooooo many people blaming others.



Ralph

Reminds me of the joke:

What do you call 50 lawyers in cement overshoes at the bottom of the ocean?
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A good start.

MA

Doesn't work worth spit.

My wife came home last week from a trip to the midwest with one of those "airport" viruses as a bonus. From the first day she arrived, I used Zicam as directed , got plenty of rest, took a multivitamin, drank plenty of liquids and the crap still landed like a sack of rocks on my head a few days later.

My better half's off to the doctor this afternoon because she's developed a nasty sinus infection. I'm still sniffling and hacking.

IMO, you'd be better off buying some crystals, leeches or an electric girdle to keep your cold away. Or is blind belief also necessary to effect a cure?

My wife came home last week from a trip to the midwest with one of those "airport" viruses as a bonus.

Misery does love company, Chuck. I also got the airport virus on a business trip to Greenville, SC in the middle of last month....I'm just getting over it now.

About the McDonalds lawsuit:

always remember, no matter what side of something this crazy you may be on, there was a law firm willing to take the case, a judge willing to hear the case, another law firm that couldn't defend their clients against these "false and frivolous" claims, and at least 7 of 12 that thought it was a good case. I never blame the person that brought suit because it has to get past so many layers before they get a dime.

I took zinc with a cold and the cold went away.
I failed to take zinc with a cold and the cold went away.
Happy to be alive!
tubatooter1940

Another "cure" is a fizzy tablet called "Airborne". Mostly vitamins with a few traces of herbs. Doesn't work any better than a multivitamin:

http://www.airbornehealth.com/ingredients.html