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Are you suggesting that the more alcohol a country puts in their cars the more corrupt they become??

bloke wrote:

Three Valves wrote:Are you suggesting that the more alcohol a country puts in their cars the more corrupt they become??

no...You're just talking about arithmetic.

10% alcohol in gasoline = 10% lower gas mileage.

When I use (so called) 87 octane 10% alcohol gas in my Toyota Corolla, I can get 40 mpg hwy @ c. 65 mph (flat terrain).

When I use 87 octane no-alcohol gas in my Toyota Corolla, I can get 10% more mpg (44) @ 65 mph (flat terrain)...

...which means that "alcohol in gas" = ~0~

I don't mean to take the thread off-topic, but I agree. In my car, when I use E-85 as opposed to regular, unleaded, un-alcohol'ed gasoline, the motor functions at roughly a 20% less efficiency. So I only purchase E-85 when the price is at least 20% less than regular, unleaded, un-alcohol'ed gasoline.

Now, in the winter, the 5% or 10% blend does do well to keep the fuel lines de-iced, in case any condensation forms in the gasoline tank. And like everything else, prevention is key - filling up at a reputable station, keeping the tank full so there is less chance of condensation forming, but not over filling to where gasoline splashes up into the vapor recovery system, etc. but don't do any more than that, because alcohol does not evaporate as readily, and the engine can be hard to start as a result.

What does that have to do with Brazil? I don't know. I haven't checked recently to see how much of our crude oil the USA still gets from neighbor Venezuela. I'm not planning on driving the Pan-American highway any time soon to go see Brazil. About the closest I will probably ever get to Brazil is listening to a Sergio Mendes album.

But do remember: due to the politics between Portugal and Spain in the 15th century, the modern effect of the Treaty of Tordesillas has Brazil speaking Portuguese and the rest of South America speaking Castilian Spanish.

bloke wrote:
no...You're just talking about arithmetic.

Actually, I was suggesting that the more alcohol a country puts in their cars the more corrupt they become.

But I wanted to blame you!!

Three Valves wrote:

bloke wrote:
no...You're just talking about arithmetic.

Actually, I was suggesting that the more alcohol a country puts in their cars the more corrupt they become.

But I wanted to blame you!!

As bloke pointed out - in the cars or in the people?

Cars.

Cultures that imbibe are generally less corrupt.

Sweden as opposed to say, Iran for instance.

Exceptions??

Of course.

It's too bad stupidity isn't painful.

Donn wrote:It's too bad stupidity isn't painful.

If it were 100 proof, I'd drink it!!

So.... is it OK to ship Ethanol to Brazil? If so... what will it cost? Do I need special packaging? Customs forms? I only want to send them a little Ethanol... maybe a quart or so. Do they use US quarts, UK quarts, or some other strange metric measure?

bloke wrote:If I send a friend in Brazil a small Christmas present (perhaps $20 - $40 item[s]) how much duty would they have to pay?

(I'm thinking of putting cash to cover the duty in with the gift, so it really *is* a gift.)

Reminds me of PDQ Bach's "Bach Portrait."