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Okay, so I've seen three (3) different commercials for Episode III. In each one, Darth Vader appears to be CGI. If this is true...

...George Lucas deserves the eternal torment that awaits him.

Doug "some things need to be real"

Are you sure it wasn't an ad for the Star Wars video game? I can only tell the difference between a modern action movie and a video game by looking for a score on the screen.

-Eric

Shockwave wrote:Are you sure it wasn't an ad for the Star Wars video game?

-Eric

Quite sure.

Doug "who is glad at least that Samuel L. Jackson isn't CGI"

TUBACHRIS85 wrote:I can say that it is common now for the star wars films to combine both CGI, and real life. I can say that for episode 3, that there is an actuall Darth Vader suit made. If you own the Star Wars collection of episodes 4,5, and 6, the DVD set, they have a feature on I believe the Return of the Jedi disk, where they give you a preveiw of episode 3, and they show the prop makers, designing a suit, for the actor playing Anakin. At the end, he walks onto the set in full costume. For some of the commercials, I can say for sure, the scene when they show Vader rising up towards the screen, that is NOT CGI. However, I have yet to see a CGI Vader, but I havent for the commercials at least. And if you notice, this Vader helmet is some what changed in design, and actually smaller then the original too.

-tubachris
(whos a major star wars geek)

Thanks for the info. I've tried to avoid the DVDs put out by lucasfilm, instead making my own from the old laserdiscs (so that Han shoots first and Sebastian Shaw is still Anakin), so I haven't seen these special features. Maybe it's just the camerawork in the new movies that made Vader look fake. If so the director of photography needs to go back and watch the old films again.

Anyhoo...we'll know for sure Wednesday night

cc_tuba_guy wrote:Looks like someone smashed in his face...

Looks more like that cinemascope effect when a wide picture is mushed into a narrower space.

I haven't even seen the commercials. As soon as I see one start, I mute the sound and look away until it's done. I want the first viewing to be as fresh as I can manage.

SWOrrior wrote: The helmet is now perfectly symmetrical (which the original was not even close)

I fail to understand this obsession that Lucas seems to have. Why should Darth Vader's helmet be "perfectly symmetrical"? That's quite possibly why it looked CGI to me. Because it was "perfect".

Perfect=fake.

If the characters in a movie don't at least seem real, why should I care about them? With the original characters in the Star Wars movies, it was their flaws that made them real. They have asymmetrical helmets. They whine. They can't jump 20 stories without any effort. Yoda doesn't fly like a hummingbird on steroids. The stormtroopers can't shoot straight. Princess Leia gets "taped" down. R2-D2 doesn't have rockets in his legs. And so on.

Imagine the Eroica Symphony without the "sour" notes. It might be "cleaner" and maybe more perfect, but would we enjoy it as much?

Imagine if someone had told Vaughan Williams that the first loud section of his London symphony sounded bad, that he used the wrong chords.

Don't get me started on Stravinsky.

My point is that what made me like Star Wars was that the world it created was real. But these prequels have "fake" written all over them. When Obi-Wan dies in Ep 4, you can feel Luke's loss. When Qui-gon Jinn dies in Ep. 1, you think "it's about time--how 'bout Jar Jar now?"

Doug "who is very disappointed"

bloke wrote:

Aww, come on Joe. We're all passionate about something.

I know how to get you (and Wayne and Chuck and Joe Baker, etc) interested:

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Darth Steak.

bloke wrote:Actually, you can leave darth steak in the freezer if you've got someone who can give me one of these for about an hour or so...

Get one from a stormtrooper:

bloke wrote:Actually, you can leave darth steak in the freezer if you've got someone who can give me one of these for about an hour or so...

For $300 an hour, I hear Sarah gives GREAT footjobs: http://www.sarahofmemphis.com/

schlepporello wrote:

funkcicle wrote: For $300 an hour, I hear Sarah gives GREAT footjobs: http://www.sarahofmemphis.com/

Yeah, and she probably weigh 500 pounds and has warts all over her body. AND SMOKES TOO!

bonus.

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funkcicle wrote:

bloke wrote:Actually, you can leave darth steak in the freezer if you've got someone who can give me one of these for about an hour or so...

For $300 an hour, I hear Sarah gives GREAT footjobs: http://www.sarahofmemphis.com/

She gives quantity discounts (4 hrs/$800) and (overnight/($1200).

Sarah of Bloketown wrote:Money exchanged is for time and companionship only.

Maybe the footrub's not included?