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What to do with fish
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:34 pm
by tubeast
I guess quite a few of you people are into fishing.
Some time ago, a friend of mine used to go fishing. He loved to fish, but didn´t care about eating his prey.
So, occasionally, he would show up with several trout or other fish that can be caught around here for us to prepare and devour. He even was so kind to rid the fish of any intestines so we could use them right away. So my question is: How do you prepare fish once you got a hold of it?
To start the discussion here´s my favorite recipe for trout:
-open bottle of dry white wine (Riesling or Scheurebe, for instance) and let breathe some air.
-boil a desired amount of good potatoes. No salt so the original taste will show.
-rinse fish, apply salt.
-dissolve butter in a frying pan and fry fish.
-take fish out of pan and keep warm.
-using (much) more butter, fry a suitable amount of almonds until of light brown colour. Use salt. Pour butter and almonds in heat proof dish and set on a candle-lit stove on the table so the butter won´t get solid again.
- serve fish and potatoes on a plate. Add butter and almonds as desired. A slice of lemon might do nicely.
-Yumm.
I like to use little of a spice called "Lorbeer" in German. It comes in leaves and was used by ancient Greeks to adorn victorious Olympionikes.
So what do you guys do ?
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:56 pm
by Tubainsauga
For anyone who needs a translation, "Lorbeer" is bay leaves.
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 12:06 am
by Chuck(G)
If I've got a nice fresh trout or a kokanee salmon, I'll stuff the fish with some butter and brown sugar, adding salt and pepper to taste. Wrap in aluminum foil and put it on the grill--turn once after a few minutes.
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:11 am
by tubatooter1940
From a fishy point of view I would like to quote my favorite song writer,Pat Daily:
What the (heck) you got against fish? Fish ain't done nothin' at all.
You hound 'em and you catch 'em and you stuff 'em and you stretch 'em
and you mount 'em and display 'em on the living room wall.
Then when company comes,and the drinks go sloshedy slish,your eyes get wet like a Viet Nam vet when you tell 'em how you battled that fish.
What the (heck) you got against fish? They don't play thier radios loud.
They don't go insane on booze or cocaine and they don't go cruisin' with the motorcycle crowd. They don't abuse thier wives or beat thier kids.
They don't care if you call 'em miss or miz.They don't join the E.R.A. and they don't want no equal pay so tell me what the (heck)you got against fish.
Now picture the poor peaceful fish.Think how confused he must feel.
Keepin' out of trouble eatin' sh** and blowin' bubbles when along comes some a** h*** with a rod and a reel.You offer him a nice juicy worm.And then with a flick of your wrist,you hook him and you fry him and you hear him as he's dyin' sayin' what the (heck) you got against fish?
(He says) What the (heck) you got against fish? What the heck we ever done to you hoo hoo?We know we shouldn't oughta take a leak under the water but tell me what else can a poor fish do?Supposin' I came knockin' at your door,and said,"Can I come in and take a (whiz)?"You'd probably say no and I'd walk off sayin'"Whoa,what the (heck)you got against fish?
What the (heck) you got against fish? Why are we the ones you'r pickin' on?If your rent ain't paid and you can't get laid,why take it out on a little croisant?If you got a burning desire,to kill somrthing that wiggles and twists,why not:
Waste a rotarian,not an aquarian.
Where's the satisfaction,puttin' a little perch out of action?
Do you think that it shows class,when you assassinate a bass?
Does it really make your day,to blow a minnow's life away?
Is it fascinatin' to watch a catfish suffocatin'?
And is it joyous rammin',your hook into a salmon?
So tell me what the (heck) you got against fish?
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:45 am
by DLThomas
I like to smoke 'em, but it's tough keeping the paper lit.

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:51 am
by tubatooter1940
Doc,Pat Dailey is no tree hugger.His tongue is firmly planted in his cheek
If P.E.T.A. had an ounce of imagination,they would be all over that song but the humorless weasels fail to see humor as a weapon.P.E.T.A. showed up in the Mobile Bay Delta-smacking the water with sticks to scare fish away.Some good ole boys pulled up in a bass boat and commented,"They ain't never gonna catch no fish doin' that."
Another Pat Dailey fish song:
I come home from a hard nights fishin'.And I showed you the fish that I caught.And you had the nerve to say to me that those fish were not caught- but bought.And when I told you 'bout the one that got away,you said B** S** B** S*** to me.I'm pained by your lack of trust and faith,but let me tell you honestly 2 3 4
I might lie about the milage on the car that I drive-lie about how many years,I've been alive.I might lie about the day your check will arrive but I'll never lie to you about fish.
I might lie about the size, of my gut,lie about the size of my old lady's butt.I might lie about the size of my you know what but I'll never lie to you about fish. (going into bridge)
I might lie about how many gold records I've had,lie and say my mother was married to my dad.Winters in Ohio aren't all that bad-not when you're down in Key West.
I might lie about how many times I've been in jail,lie about the price of the boat that I sail.Or say I smoked pot once but did not inhale.No no no no no!
I might lie and say I was a hero,in the war.I might lie and say I'm not drinkin' no more.I might lie about why,I'm here on the floor but I'll never lie to you about fish.
(spoken)Baby the reason I smell like this-well I guess the scent of that fish must still be wit' me.I know I know my lips are swollen up puffy and red.You see the tail of the fish came right up and hit me.And those things on my neck that look just like hickeys-why that's where that damn fish bit me.
I'll never never lie-baby can I come inside?I'll never never lie-don't you know I got my pride? I'll never lie to you about fish.(end)
Sorry for the long posts but this guy is my favorite funny-song writer.
tubatooter 1940
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:12 pm
by Mark E. Chachich
I usually just let them go. I always thought that it was irratating when a fish interupted my sitting under a nice tree drinking a cheap cold beer time.
When I do bother to take them (and I really like to eat fish), I like to grill and smoke them (and have a good beer or a nice glass of wine).
summertime, yehaw!
Mark
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:46 pm
by Chuck(G)
Doc wrote:
What the hell is wrong with cornmeal, spices, and a big vat of hot oil?
What's wrong with beer batter?
How about blackened?
Olive oil, thyme, and rosemary are nice, but DAMN you people need to live a little! Where's the live oak or mesquite smoke?
All this talk of food is hurting me. I'm so hungry right now, I could eat the *** out of skunk. Gotta go to lunch quick.
Doc, you sound like you eat a lot of catfish, if indeed those ugly things can be referred to as fish. Trout and salmon require a somewhat different treatment.
Anybody here grill salmon on a cedar plank?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:25 pm
by funkcicle
anybody for lutefisk?
(who can tell which course is the fish?)
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:05 pm
by Joe Baker
Ugly?? A 1 to 2 pound channel cat is one of the prettiest of God's delicacies - I mean creatures! Those huge, fat things aren't fit to eat, but the smaller ones are FINE eating.
But the best eating fish in the world is a crappie, followed closely by bass, and Doc's recipe (he didn't mention the peanut oil, but I'll overlook that) is exactly what's called for.
Let my mama fry you up a skillet of fried catfish, alongside a skillet of fried potatoes and a batch of home-made hush puppies, and you'll think you're in heaven.
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Joe Baker, who has only Tilapia in the freezer right now, and whose diet will only allow it cooked with a little olive-oil cooking spray.

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:22 pm
by Chuck(G)
Joe Baker wrote:Ugly?? A 1 to 2 pound channel cat is one of the prettiest of God's delicacies - I mean creatures! Those huge, fat things aren't fit to eat, but the smaller ones are FINE eating.
But the best eating fish in the world is a crappie, followed closely by bass, and Doc's recipe (he didn't mention the peanut oil, but I'll overlook that) is exactly what's called for.
Let my mama fry you up a skillet of fried catfish, alongside a skillet of fried potatoes and a batch of home-made hush puppies, and you'll think you're in heaven.
When I was a boy, we used to fish for black bullheads and catfish in the Little Calumet River, which at that time, was little more than an open sewer. It was amazing that anything could survive in that muck.
During the annual family pilgrimage to Michigan in summer, some of the best fish I can remember were the wonderfully greasy smoked freshwater perch, wrapped in newspaper. My favorite "line to the pan" fish was walleye.
But now that I'm in the Pacific Northwest, it's awfully hard to compete with salmon that's gone from the river to the smoker in just a couple of hours.
I've tried raising largemouth bass in my fishpond as part of the food chain (mosquitoes->gambusia->bluegills->bass) but they don't taste the same as the ones that are caught in the wild.
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:09 pm
by ThomasDodd
you stick a stick through it length wise and cook it ove an open fire. You can use supportse at the ends of the stick, or just hold it buy hand.
No seasoning other than the wood.
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:17 pm
by windshieldbug

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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:39 pm
by Radagast
hehe...the green stuff that looks like vomit, is actually mashed peas mixed with butter...my dad is crazy about that stuff. Then again this is the same man that wont have melted cheese on his pizza. The fish would be the part in the middle of the dish.
I dont know but ive been told its like eating jello?(the red stuff, semi translucent, sweet). And of course tastes nothing, so you´ll have an excuse to drink aquavit. Probably salty flavor on the fish.
edit: Spelling, not sure i got it all

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:00 am
by tubeast
I like salmon cooked in a steam basket.
All you do is put 1-2" of water in a pan, add some mustard seeds and maybe a little salt. Place a steaming basket (those asian things) with the salmon into the pan and make sure the salmon remains ABOVE the water. Let cook til water´s gone.
You can experiment with additional spices or lemon juice in the water, too.
DELICATE!!
Again, best with cooked potatoes and some melted butter.
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:41 pm
by Charlie Goodman
Radagast wrote:hehe...the green stuff that looks like vomit, is actually mashed peas mixed with butter...my dad is crazy about that stuff. Then again this is the same man that wont have melted cheese on his pizza. The fish would be the part in the middle of the dish.
I dont know but ive been told its like eating jello?(the red stuff, semi translucent, sweet). And of course tastes nothing, so you´ll have an excuse to drink aquavit. Probably salty flavor on the fish.
edit: Spelling, not sure i got it all

Ah, like all proper Scandinavian dishes, no flavor at all. Your version of it, though, seems to break the rules: it's not all white!
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 6:12 pm
by Chuck(G)
Radagast wrote:I dont know but ive been told its like eating jello?(the red stuff, semi translucent, sweet). And of course tastes nothing, so you´ll have an excuse to drink aquavit. Probably salty flavor on the fish.
North of here, there's a community that has a high Scandanavian population where they trot out the lutefisk once a year. It's actually pretty tasteless and revolting in texture. Drying fish and pickling it in lye has to be one of the worst ways of preparing any food.
I thought one drank aquavit with boiled crayfish....

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:27 pm
by Chuck(G)
tuba4sissies wrote:and calamari is nexted. fried octopus for those of you that don't know.
"Calamari" is Italian for squid, not octopus. And if eaten, can be served a variety of ways, not just fried. I like it in a nice marinara sauce.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:31 pm
by Charlie Goodman
Chuck(G) wrote:tuba4sissies wrote:and calamari is nexted. fried octopus for those of you that don't know.
"Calamari" is Italian for squid, not octopus. And if eaten, can be served a variety of ways, not just fried. I like it in a nice marinara sauce.

My friend's family is from the Phillipines, and they frequently have them fried into "squid rings." 'Course, they also eat cow-ankle...
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:23 pm
by Matt G
tuba4sissies wrote:
i love squid and lobster.

I find crab (not Krab) to be a better choice than lobster. Especially snow crab or Alaskan king crab. The meat is much more tender and flavorful, IMO.
Calamari (pronounced Calamarrrr if you're Italian and from the northeast) is quite good when prepared ala Mama, or Rhode Island style.
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I'm suprised to not see many votes for grouper and/or sea bass. Those are my favorite fish. There was a Cuban restaurant in Tampa that could do sea bass like no one's business.
Crawdaddies are good too, but must be consumed with beer. Preferably even boiled with beer.
I used to get catfish often down South. Up here in New England, catfish is basically unheard of. BTW, there are other ways to prepare catfish, other than frying it. And when frying it, please use corn meal, and not flour!
