Evolution of a piston valve set

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Evolution of a piston valve set

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Old tubing removed, crappy old lacquer removed, valve caps taken down to accomodate larger fingerbuttons.

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1st & 2nd circuits completed (not in that order).

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3rd circuit done the next day.

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4th circuit, and all cleaned up (getting it all parallel took substantially more time!).

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Reverse.

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Plenty of room (I hope!) for a 5th rotor valve.
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Looks nice!

Will the 5th be after the main tuning slide? I’m guessing yes.
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Thanks guys - yes, E flat
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Just like that. Nothing to it, folks. :)
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Very nice roweenie! What horn is it going on? A frankentuba or a rebuild?
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Nice work!
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Tubajug wrote:Very nice roweenie! What horn is it going on? A frankentuba or a rebuild?
Hmm...

It's going on a King monster E flat, so I'm not sure what to call it. The valveset is Reynolds, which as far as I can see is virtually identical to a King sousaphone set - - - ?

I believe the terminology is up for debate:

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Nice!

Those Reynolds and Olds valves, I think they're a little heavier metal and just seem a little nicer in build quality, or materials or something compared to King to me. I just like em.
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Thanks, Tabor -

I added the small branch and MTS assembly to the valveset yesterday:


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Referencing Tubajug's post, I realized that this small branch was a tight fit around the valveset, and that it was really only going to fit one way, so I went ahead with adding it now, rather than later when it would be more difficult. The branch and dogleg were also one contiguous piece, so I had to fabricate a ferrule so that I could rotate the dogleg for better adjustment.

Since it's in E flat, there's really only one branch left before I reach the top bow - that's where any needed adjustments will be made.
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Bugle mocked in place

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Valveset dry-fitted to check for proper alignment

Once I'm satisfied with the alignment, I'll brace the branches together and start bracing the valveset onto the top bow.
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That looks great!
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