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6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:38 pm
by jmagnew3
The search engines will be another month indexing this site but serious interest should be able to copy and paste or follow this link.
Joseph Agnew
http://jmagnew3.wix.com/martin-tuba-for ... ef=Default" target="_blank

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:04 pm
by bort
jmagnew3 wrote:The search engines will be another month indexing this site but serious interest should be able to copy and paste or follow this link.
Joseph Agnew
http://jmagnew3.wix.com/martin-tuba-for ... ef=Default" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
I have no idea what this means. Is this a virus link like those "UK Kitchens!" posts?

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:21 pm
by jmagnew3
don't know anything about UK Kitchens this is a link to a site I built for the sole purpose of displaying a tuba that I have for sale. There are also some videos of me playing the tuba on Youtube if you would like to hear it.
Joseph Agnew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpmSyLtYKIo" target="_blank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCC5e_2 ... rvygxrwpds" target="_blank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AR5LEA_Ytg" target="_blank

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:55 pm
by bort
Sorry, disregard my previous message (new user, message that didn't make sense [to me!], and a questionable link). There are spam posts here from time to time, and this looked like one of those [to me!].

What a great looking tuba! It looks like a giganto-enormous Meinl Weston 32.

Is the sound purely "American," or does the rotary valve set have any effect on the sound to make it more Germanic?

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:05 pm
by chronolith
My first thought was a Yammy 661 on steriods. Truly unique tuba.

Thanks for the youtubes.

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:27 pm
by jmagnew3
a visit to the site I built for it really tells the story.
JMA

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:23 pm
by jmagnew3
I am the only person that has done any thing to this tuba. Joseph Agnew

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:33 am
by Alex C
Great looking tuba and great work, jmagnew3. This is especially interesting because you rescued an historic instrument and made it a player. I know you are sorry to sell it but the new owner will appreciate it for years to come.

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:11 am
by jmagnew3
Great way of looking at it! Alex C In fact I am less sorry to sell it than I am happy for it to get played more often. I am blessed to have moved on to more specialized playing and just don't use it like a tuba of this calibur should be used.
My work horse these days is my 3/4 York CC that I built with Bob Rusk rip. He and I used to talk about his 6/4 York sitting in the corner in Mishawaka and I don't want this Martin to have that same fate. The good news is that the guys talking to me about it are in Orchestra positions where it will be most at home.
JMA

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:33 pm
by bigbob
What are you asking for this beautiful instrument??....thanks....BB

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:41 pm
by thevillagetuba
bigbob wrote:What are you asking for this beautiful instrument??....thanks....BB
The website the OP made and linked lists it at $15,000.

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:11 am
by Steve Marcus
The OP kindly let me play his 6/4 Martin CC for a session of private practice and for a rehearsal of Tchaikovsky 2.

It has a great sound and is very easy to play.

The C two ledger lines below the staff down to the G below that really rumbles.

Intonation is excellent. Even the 5th partial E and the half steps below it do not require alternate fingerings.

Notes speak exactly as you hear them in your head. In the 4th movement of Tchaik 2, for example, the C above the staff and the notes descending below that pitch pop right out.

The tuba feels great to hold--like a "teddy bear." The size for a 6/4 tuba is certainly compact--it's the only 6/4 tuba that I've been able to fit in the trunk of my Nissan Sentra (the 6/4 Neptune does not; the 4/4 Nirschl does).

The amount of sound that the tuba puts out, regardless of the mouthpiece, is significant. Yet it can be very much under control in any size ensemble.

The Martin bell's proximity made the sound very gratifying to my ear. Because of that, it may offer less of an idea of what the sound is out in the hall; that's where it really matters.

When I took the Martin to orchestra rehearsal, I intentionally said nothing to my low brass colleagues. When I asked the trombones what they thought about the sound of the tuba, their comments were quite positive.

If you're considering this horn, you won't be disappointed at its sound and playability.

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:36 am
by bort
Is this entirely an American (York/Martin) kind of sound, or do the rotary valves affect the sound at all? I'm always curious how these hybrid tubas play and sound. As in, whether they play/sound like American or German style tubas.

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:59 pm
by Steve Marcus
bort wrote:Is this entirely an American (York/Martin) kind of sound, or do the rotary valves affect the sound at all? I'm always curious how these hybrid tubas play and sound. As in, whether they play/sound like American or German style tubas.

bort, the OP provided a good answer to your question in his website about this tuba:
Gene Pokorny included this tuba in the Orchestra Hall sound trials for the Yamaha 6/4 York copy that was in development in 2003. At those trials I and some other York experts compared this Martin and the CSO York to the new Yamaha that was at that time in the development stage.
One definition of larger (6/4) German tubas can be (but not always) that they have the tall bell/"Kaiser-type" appearance and sound. I would not characterize the sound or appearance of this Martin tuba in that fashion, despite its rotary valves. Look at the appearance of the bugle and project an image of sound in your mind--or consult the OP's description:
This instrument in its original state had four metric rotary valves that had been attached to an American made CC 'bugle'...This tuba was not cut to the key of CC.

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:18 pm
by bort
Right, and I read his Web site. I was just curious what YOUR impressions on it were.

I have long wanted an American-made rotary CC tuba, and preferably one from the modern era (think one of those King rotary CC tubas, but made with the benefit of modern engineering). I'm certain that this tuba is NOT what I want, but I am curious about is what difference the valve type makes on a bugle like this. That is, if you slapped a piston valve set onto this horn, would it make any difference in the sound? I'm guessing not.

I also think that rotors are off-putting to some players who prefer pistons. So if the rotors really make no difference on this tuba, that could be a good thing for some people.

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:59 pm
by Steve Marcus
bort wrote:I am curious about is what difference the valve type makes on a bugle like this. That is, if you slapped a piston valve set onto this horn, would it make any difference in the sound? I'm guessing not.
I agree with you. The sound characteristics are, IMHO, much more the result of the bugle and its smooth interaction with the balance of the horn.

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:04 am
by ScottBass55
As one of Mr. Angew's former students, I can personally say that this horn sounds like a dream. I had the chance to try to buy it off of him years ago, and as a stupid kid, I didn't take the chance. It's a beautiful instrument with a big bright, warm tone, and it deserves a good home. It's got the Gold Dollars on the rotors and just feels great and comfortable to play. It's an amazing buy for whoever wants an insanely good instrument.

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 1:51 pm
by jonesbrass
Beautiful tuba!

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:13 pm
by jmagnew3
The Martin is still for sale.
New price is at the web site.
http://jmagnew3.wix.com/martin-tuba-for-sale" target="_blank

Re: 6/4 Martin For Sale

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:42 am
by jmagnew3
Martin is no longer available