Looking for 3/4 rotary BBb, not Asian, $2500-4000

[gionvil]

http://www.schneideruwe.de/tuba-kaiserbass.html" target="_blank" target="_blank

[bisontuba]

http://www.schneideruwe.de/tuba-kaiserbass.html" target="_blank" target="_blank

That is a F tuba, not a BBb tuba...

[iiipopes]

Miraphone 184?
Josef Lidl?

Does it absolutely have to be rotary (many 3/4 piston valve models to choose from)?

Does it absolutely have to not be Asian (the Jupiter comes to mind)?

[bort]

That old Kruspe BBb is still at BBC... and under $2,000 as well.

[Tom Coffey]

I have played that Kruspe, and liked it a lot. It has a ton of old horn style, and still plays very well.

[gionvil]

http://www.schneideruwe.de/tuba-kaiserbass.html" target="_blank" target="_blank

That is a F tuba, not a BBb tuba...

There are two Arions on that page. One looks so much like a JB I wonder if cerveny is putting their name on the Chinese horns.

... A copy's copy?? That is very sad.

[vandoeduardo]

What about Jupiter tubas?
Jupiter 778/780L are nice instruments...

If you're willing to make an international trip to get one, I can think about selling mine...
hehe

[Frank Byrne]

By all means try out the Tuba Exchange TE-2111. It's a compact 4/4 BB-flat and I played one at Midwest that was excellent and a great deal of fun to play. List price $2,395. Maybe made in Asia but if the buyer can think past that, it's a fine little horn.

[bort]

Keep your eyes out for a Meinl Weston 18.

Maybe closer to 4/4 than 3/4, but it's small, sounds great, and is easy to play. Kind of a piggy-shaped tuba.

[Tom Coffey]

Also look for the MW under its nickname, the "handy model." Sometimes advertised for sale on the web that way.

[bort]

Great! I used to play in a community band, where the other tuba player was in his 70s, and he bought an MW-18 because it was smaller and easier to transport. He sounded great on it!

(FWIW, he eventually sold it, and last I heard, he was playing a Fafner. So much for smaller and easier to transport, but he just loved the Fafner, and used the old "you only go around once" justification. )

[Michael Bush]

I'm serious, the second Arion in that page has the same weird "half bent at the tips" spatulas as the Chinese horns (which was the Chinese version of the classic cerveny spatulas) which I have never seen on a Czech made cerveny

I've never seen those kind of spatulas on any horn made anywhere until now. Where else have they appeared?

[sactubaguy59]

Be patient and look for Miraphone 282. It is a 3/4 four valve rotary Bb horn. It is larger than most 3/4 horns and it has a great sound.