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SOLD - 1930s York Monster Sousaphone

Posted: Fri May 30, 2025 9:42 am
by grammit
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Up for sale is my beloved 1930s York Grand Rapids Monster Sousaphone, overhauled by George Borodi in Cleveland in around 2015. I’ve had the horn for about 10 years, but I was a little too ambitious with how I wanted to use it. It’s been maintained, but I have not played it much at all over the last 6 years. Keep in mind this horn is a MONSTER and a very large and heavy instrument. Pre-WWII brass and I don’t think I’ve been able to put a new dent in it since owning it. It’s basically a tank.

The sound is deep, dark and pure. And it is buttery-smooth to play. It has such a wide range of resonance that, even with 3 valves, the intonation is fantastic. The valves themselves are in great condition and they also have the spring caps for emptying water. Slides are also in good condition.

It does have its quirks. The leadpipe has been modified to take a Conn gooseneck and modern mouthpiece. Because of the way it has been modified, I prefer to play it without any bits, but can also play it with 1 bit (2 bits would be a challenge and throw off the balance too much for me, but I'm a bigger guy so take that fwiw; I've had students that can use 2 bits comfortably). Because of this, you have to compensate a bit with the main tuning slide (~3in) to keep it in tune. Gooseneck screw, water key spring and cork have now been replaced! See pictures.

Includes Coon gooseneck and 2 bits. I had a shoulder pad and cradle pad installed and will include both. The case has been modified to be able to fit this horn but it is far from optimal. Not a particularly useful case, but good for storage.

I’m located in the Charlotte, NC area if you’d like to try it out. I’m asking for $4500, shipping is possible but you'll have to cover it.

Re: 1930s York Monster Sousaphone

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2025 8:45 am
by kburke
I just sold the same horn a couple of months ago through Baltimore Brass. Whoever did the receiver modification removed +/- 10 inches of “real estate” — either to replace a broken one or to accommodate normal mouthpieces. The original configuration required a York mouthpiece with an enormous shank size — probably not readily available. I’m amazed that there is enough “pull” available on the main tuning slide to get the thing in tune.

Re: 1930s York Monster Sousaphone

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2025 10:40 am
by grammit
Yes, it did lose some length. Without any bits, the main tuning slide has to come out about 3 inches. Less with 1 bit, of course.

I remember asking about your horn a couple years ago when you had it up! I always wanted to restore this horn but didn't have the means. Someone posted on another forum about having a lower mouthpiece receiver and it would be amazing to see this thing restored. I might have a few pictures of the original setup somewhere but not sure where you could find a neck or mouthpiece.

It still plays beautifully, though. :tuba:

Re: 1930s York Monster Sousaphone

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2025 2:31 pm
by grammit
All shined up for some new pictures!

Re: 1930s York Monster Sousaphone

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 11:17 am
by Renodoc
I have one of these and love the sound of this horn. FWIW, I play it with two bits. The only downside is that my case is about as beat up, and I'm trying to find a viable option to travel with it

Re: 1930s York Monster Sousaphone

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 10:05 pm
by cm2ncfsu2
grammit wrote: Sun Jun 01, 2025 10:40 am Someone posted on another forum about having a lower mouthpiece receiver and it would be amazing to see this thing restored. I might have a few pictures of the original setup somewhere but not sure where you could find a neck or mouthpiece.
That was me (York-aholic on the other forum). I still have that lower mouth pipe.

Lee Stofer has made reproduction necks for these York Monster BBb sousas I don’t see why he couldn’t make one with the small end sized to take Conn bits (and thus use a normal mouthpiece). Yes, the York mouthpiece for these (and their 6/4 tubas) had gigantic shanks, larger than Alexanders.

Re: 1930s York Monster Sousaphone

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 12:59 pm
by grammit
In the interest of selling before my summer is over, price has been lowered! Also willing to meet anyone within a reasonable driving distance if you'd like to try it out within the next few weeks.