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YFB-621 F tuba

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:45 am
by Alex C
I'm selling my lacquer finish Yamaha F. It's the factory standard 4 + 1 with a vented first valve. The factory hardcase with wheels is included.

The tuba is in great condition. The lacquer is better than 95%; few dents and only one of any size (on the back large bow); intonation is YFB621 standard spot-on; low range is terrific. Price is $4200 + shipping.

Why am I selling? I have wanted a YFB-621S (silver plate) for years and finally found one.

Pictures posted at www.handylearning.com/tubaInF.htm
I have also posted this on netinstruments.

PM if interested

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:49 pm
by willlawson
I am looking for the same...where did you find yours???

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:35 pm
by quinterbourne
You mean Yamaha YFB-621, right?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:38 pm
by willlawson
No, YFB822s ...

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:46 pm
by quinterbourne
YFB-621:
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YFB-822:
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The one he is selling is a 621.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:59 pm
by willlawson
I am aware of that. I am asking where he found his YFB 822s...

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:04 pm
by willlawson
Never mind...I apologize...his post says that he found a 321...sorry

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:59 pm
by quinterbourne
I assume he found a 621 F in silver, so now he's selling the lacquer 621 F that he owns.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:05 pm
by willlawson
right

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:54 pm
by Alex C
ARRRRRGHHH!!

621 ---- that's what I get for posting first thing in the morning.

I found a YFB-621S.

I'm not fond of the upper register intonation of the 822.

Sorry for the mistake, guys. Back to business now.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:13 am
by Alex C
Wade, I remember meeting you at a Texaco on I-35. It was wet and cold if I remember. I think the clerks thought it was a drug deal going down in the parking lot. A large drug deal judging by the package we exchanged.

I regretted selling that instrument a hundred times. I found this lacquered 621 about 4 years ago and this silver plated version last week. Great horns.

If I ever get to Jxn, I'd like to play yours and see the modifications you've done. We could also drink beer as an antidote to the brass poisoning that would inevitably follow.

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:08 pm
by Alex C
Oom-bump Oom-bump

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:20 pm
by Dylan King
Thanks for this post, my friend. I dig the 1st valve slide ring. I should get something like that on my 621. Top space G needs a push-in for me. Otherwise I am wuite impressed with the intonation on mine. Right now I can lip it up enough to get the note in tune, but If I get a ring like that, It will get even easier.

$4,200 is a great price for this horn.

I really like having a tiny horn that can do anything. The 621 is certainly that. I have played it against the 822, and find it even more versatile. It slots in tune better than the 822 in my opinion.

If one is looking for a lot of sound, this certainly wouldn't be the horn for you, but for tubists looking for the absolute easiest horn to play, I think the YFB-621 takes the prize. I can play below the piano and more. I like the pedal tones on it as much as my Yorkbrunner. The low register is as easy to play as a CC, without the power.

It would never fly in an orchestra or ensemble bigger than say, 50. Even there one would max the volume out. I think it's great for recording or mic'd playing, or any small ensemble where you don't care about sounding like a fat German with a 6/4 BBb on his second liter.

I also really dig the horn because I have a pocket in my jeans I can carry it in.

Good day.

-MSM

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:08 pm
by MartyNeilan
Holy Cow!
ALL of my old horns are up for sale!!!!!
I didn't even realize this one was mine until I saw the 1st ring and "the" dent - I believe it was caused by a NYC subway turnstyle when the horn was in a gigbag on my back.
If this really is my old YFB-621, it was one of the first ones made. It was the second one I tried and played better then the first. Don Harry put it on an equal with his own 621, which I think he had picked out of a lot at the Yamahahaha warehouse in Michigan.
I used this horn for all my college auditions as well as recitals and performing the VW concerto, including once with a youth orchestra. This was also my quintet horn for about 10 years and I have never found a better or more versatile quartet or quintet horn since. With a decent sized mouthpiece this is truly an F that plays like a small CC.
Yep, MSM, the ring was for the G, I also used it to push in when I would play low Bb as 124 - it seemed to center better that way for me at the time with the mouthpiece I was then using. (And I was playing on a 4 valve CC and got used to playing its comparable low F 124 pushed in).
This is one of the few that got away that I really really (really) regretted selling, the highly tweaked 1290 being slightly distant second. (oh yeah, forgot about the huge Martin, I really want that one too :( )

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:31 pm
by MartyNeilan
As to mods, I had Tom at The Music Shop in Boonton, NJ add the 1st slide ring and the amados shortly after I first got the horn in the fall of 1988. In the late 90's Lee Stofer serviced the valves including replacing the guides and felts and put a very slick looking guard wire on top of the extended 5th valve tuning slide after he removed a ding from it - it was vulnerable to hitting the bell rim when pulled all the way out. As typical of most Yamahas, the valves had a tendency to be a little too tight and hang up until Lee lightly lapped them.
I do not remember who vented the first valve - it may even have been done after the horn left my possession.
From what I remember the 1st valve slide was as fast and smooth as a trombone slide. As the case with many 621's, I usually had the main slide out a pretty good amount.
I usually used a C4 (slightly drilled out) for solos and an opened and deepened Conn 2 (aka UMI2, Helleberg 7B) for ensemble playing. I would imagine that the G&W stainless Baer F mouthpiece would probably work very well on this horn, or a FC Helleberg.

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:26 am
by Alex C
Oom bump bump Oom bump bump Oom bump bump