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4 Rotor CC tuba w/ rebuilt valves SOLD

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:47 am
by MartyNeilan
For sale is a medium sized 4 rotor CC tuba with the name Weimar engraved on the bell.
Just moved to the 'bay - starting bid is only $850!!!
A GREAT sounding horn for small-medium sized ensembles; numerous complements on the rich tone for a smaller instrument; easily playable in tune once you get adjusted to its characteristics. Horn is circa 35-40 years old. 16" bell and about 38" tall. Sized like a 185, maybe a hair larger. I would call it either a small 4/4 or a large 3/4. Blows and feels like a small Alex. This horn will not back up on you but take everything you have, sound is warm, rich, and dark with a big mouthpiece. GREAT low range, Low F's and E's pop out with little effort. Does not have that "trombone" qualty that many smaller tubas (and even some 186-188's) have at high volumes.
The valve compression is outstanding for an older horn - rotors have been plated. Each slide has a good "pop" if pulled without the valve down. Rotors are fast and quiet; original linkage was replaced with spiral spring / nylon sockets some time ago. I will pull the rotors, clean and lube them, and replace the stoppers before I ship the horn.
Includes a homemade mute (unfortunately not one of my best attempts, so for practice only) and a Meinl-Weston slipcover with drawstrings (but no handles or straps.)
Condition is a little rough. Numerous patches and some small dents, but nothing that makes it unplayable. Horn does not have any noticeable leaks. Hole in outer 1st valve slide, but never exposed through normal pulling. Some extra "guard" plates added to bows have cracks.
The bell rim/wire is a little rough in two spots including where the wire is joined, but nothing that couldn't be fixed if desired. The bell will ring without a plastic rim on it and is worse on some notes; with the rim it is fine and can really crank. Soldering the bell to the leadpipe would help as well.
Intonation is good, but not perfect. 5th partials works fine with usual alternate fingerings (1-2 E, 2-3 Eb). F's are flat, push in. A's and Ab's are sharp, pull out or use 3 instead of 1-2. D above the staff only works 3rd valve, open and 1 are too flat. However, the slots on this horn are wide enough to bend most pitches without issue if slide pulling is not desired.
No case; slipcover is not a true gigbag. Includes a well used Kellyberg mouthpiece.
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Comparison to my (now Wade's) F and with myself for size considerations:
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Flaws:
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Hi-res pics can be emailed to serious buyers.

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:15 am
by MartyNeilan
Bump for this lightweight, resonant horn with a great sound for small to medium ensembles.
And, YES, it is perfectly playable as-is; I just played it in a 1 1/2 hour rehearsal tonight.

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:25 am
by greatk82
Marty,
How much does it weigh?
TJ "waiting for a severance check" K

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:00 am
by greatk82
Sorry, Bob,
A four valve CC is a little more versatile for me.

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:15 pm
by MartyNeilan
greatk82 wrote:Marty,
How much does it weigh?
15.5 pounds, without mouthpiece, on a home bathroom scale (could be off by 5% or so)

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:54 am
by greatk82
MartyNeilan wrote:(could be off by 5% or so)
Unacceptable!






:D

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:31 pm
by MartyNeilan
FWIW, I pulled the rotors today, cleaned them, lubed with Hetman's, and put new bumpers in and aligned. The surprise - the rotors were recently plated (nickle?) and look like new on the inside. Explains the excellent valve compression.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:20 pm
by MartyNeilan
Final bump for this lightweight, fun to play horn with rebuilt valves. With a little TLC this would make a great all-around small-medium sized horn. If it doesn't sell soon I may take it off the market for a while.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:14 pm
by MartyNeilan
Scooby Tuba wrote:
MartyNeilan wrote:Time starts now.
Yes. Yes, it does...
This is the whole avatar pic, so there should be no question about who that "King of Cool" is...
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:06 am
by MartyNeilan
Wife is saying she really wants it sold, I am actually leaning towards keeping it as a small CC / F-substitute-in-a-pinch-with-a-shallow-mouthpiece, especially since I discovered the valves are like new inside.

With a little work false tones have become surprisingly good on this horn.

As the comparison pic shows, if it doesn't sell keeping it around could be useful:
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P.S. The Weimar is on the small side, but not that small...

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:24 pm
by MartyNeilan
I am seriously thinking about keeping this as the ultimate quintet tuba once it gets a little work done.
Don't be shy about asking for hi-res pics if you think you might be interested - or stop by Nashville and have a blow on the horn.

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:43 pm
by MartyNeilan

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 3:54 pm
by WakinAZ
Go Quinn! Congrats on selling, Marty.

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:02 pm
by The Big Ben
Scooby Tuba wrote:
MartyNeilan wrote:Moved to the 'bay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0191727696
And sold...

"Quinntheeskimo" will mark it up and make even more money probably from one of you.

You guys missed out...
Yep, for the low priced model. Glad Marty got his money plus a little more than what he was asking here. Quinn must have a horn jockey on retainer so he'll make the few cosmetic repairs the Weimar needed and then sell it for about $2K. We'll see...