Page 1 of 2
SOLD: Alexander 163 CC $4,000 OBO
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:32 pm
by arpthark
Trader backed out, putting this up for sale.
Four valves, 1960s vintage, in very fine condition. Minibal style linkage conversion, decent Alex intonation (1-3 for G and D in staff, no main slide kicker needed), .812" bore, huge dark sound. Crazy low register. This one has an extra-large lead pipe but comes with an adapter that will fit modern mouthpieces. Includes Soundwear gig bag.
Asking $4,000 plus shipping (buyer responsibility). Located in Louisville KY.

Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:36 pm
by arpthark
Here are some more pics. The rotor casings are bronze. There is a missing strap ring on the back. There is lacquer (perhaps aftermarket?) that is about 50% remaining, but the underlying brass is in very good shape. No red rot. This tuba belonged to a former Army bandsman and was babied by him.
Let me speak a bit about the intonation. With three uncommon alternate fingerings (bottom line G, middle line D and top space G all played 1+3), this is one of the most in-tune tubas I have owned, no bull. This spring and summer I worked on finding a CC that was right for me - I went through a Cerveny Piggy, 186 clone, Rudy 3/4, Mirafone 184, and this fella. Out of all those, only the 186 clone had better intonation than the Alex (with the alternate fingerings). I sat down and made a tendency chart for each one. Without the alternate fingerings, the G's are lippable (maybe 10-15c flat) but D is horrendous (about 35 cents flat). In technical passages and in the middle of runs, G works well open, but 1+3 is good when you're sitting on a donut. D basically always needs to be played 1+3. So, there's your Alex caveat. You need to employ some other common sense alternates besides the aforementioned ones - 12 for E and 23 for Eb in the staff, stuff like that.
Low register: Low F works well with 124 push 1, low E is spot-on with 234, low Eb works well with 134 pull 1. I do not really miss the fifth valve on this one. Great pedal tones, and C# two lines below the staff centers nicely with 24. False tones work nicely - near-pedal D with 12 and Db with 23.

Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:59 am
by bisontuba
Beautiful tuba!!
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:39 am
by bort
Those paddle extenders are clever!
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:19 pm
by arpthark
Yes, they are nifty and not as noticeable as coins. Everything on this tuba works extremely well. Valves are quiet, good compression, slides are smooth. I would probably vent the first valve if I was going to keep it. I had a number of projects planned for this tuba, but I have too many tubas, an engagement ring to buy, and so on.
I will consider all offers.
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:58 pm
by oedipoes
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:42 pm
by arpthark
Bump. Price negotiable, all offers considered. Tuba is located in Louisville, KY and I can drive up to ~6 hours to meet for a sale. I am wary of shipping, but would be willing to discuss the possibilities with a serious buyer.
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:05 am
by arpthark
Bump for a great classic tuba.
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:43 am
by bisontuba
New Year's Bump for an Alex.....very fair price!
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 6:30 pm
by arpthark
My no-nonsense price is $4,000 firm. Need to move this soon. Buyer pays shipping if you want to risk it.
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000 priced to sell
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:54 am
by fenne1ca
I absolutely would, if I were anywhere nearby. I can't believe this is still available!
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:09 pm
by arpthark
Bump. Fund my honeymoon.
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:06 pm
by bisontuba
Great deal!
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:55 pm
by arpthark
Bump. Some recent interest but nothing concrete. Might entertain trades for an Eb if the tuba is right.
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:15 pm
by dantetuba
pm sent
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:52 pm
by bisontuba
Bump...
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000 OBO
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:12 am
by arpthark
All offers and trades considered. Would like to move this soon.
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000 OBO
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:03 pm
by thejester10276
Bump... can't believe this hasn't sold yet
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000 OBO
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:53 pm
by bisontuba
Bump...
Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000 OBO
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:58 am
by arpthark
I pulled this out the other day and gave it a whirl. Buy this before I change my mind.
With a smaller mouthpiece (PT-64), I find that the 13 fingering for first line G is not necessary.