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REDUCED (prototype) John Packer copy of gold-brass 191 BBb

Postby bloke » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:28 pm

This is an extraordinarily high-grade reference of the model 191 BBb tuba in 80:20 alloy gold brass.
The intonation is great, and the response makes me giggle a little bit (very "Thor-like").

It's a prototype that has been sitting in the JP warehouse for a couple of years.
Seemingly, it's a model that is on mothballs which might (??) be put into production at a later date
(at least, we can hope...).

The weight is only a little bit over 22 lbs. When sighting down the bows (rather than looking straight-on at the instrument), one can detect very subtle ripples - so its definitely a prototype instrument.

The rotors are typical top-grade John Packer quality with large genuine Minibal links, solid nickel silver paddles, and hardware, so think "a Miraphone-style tuba with B&S-style rotors and linkage"...and yeah, the rotor caps feature that very cool JP engraving.

As I've stated here before, I'm not a "collector" and already own enough regularly-used-to-earn-money tubas that Mrs. bloke's eyebrows raise... but this is one of those tubas that - when sold - will make me sigh a little bit (a really great tuba).

FULL DISCLOSURE:
Being a prototype, the tuba (for me) is barely too long (plays just below A=440 - warmed-up, and with the slide all the way in). I have no intention of selling anyone a tuba with this issue, so before shipping it off to its new home (and included in the price) I will make this tuba about 2-1/2" shorter, so that (at least, for me...) it will end up playing at A=440 with about a 5/8" main slide pull. There are at least two places where I can easily remove length ~WITHOUT~ shortening the main tuning slide's slide tubes. :arrow: I will also polish up my work areas, and touch up the lacquer.

The hard case is similar to other zipper JP cases...somewhat heavier/sturdier than other Chinese zipper cases. Having sat in the warehouse for a couple of years, the case exterior is a little bit dusty, and I will do my very best to send it out to its new owner looking very clean and nice.

The price (plus any shipping cost) is [EDIT] $4195. JP will offer their regular warranty on this instrument.
There's no mouthpiece included with this instrument (as - being a prototype - it was never "set up" with mouthpiece/oil/papers). It surely place nicely, though, with my own Sellmansberger "Symphony" model cup and Symphony model back-bore (with either the standard or Profundo-height rim).

If you're looking for an in-tune BBb 5/4 large bore powerhouse that doesn't cost a huge amount of money, is new (and made of beautiful 80:20 gold brass and nickel silver), maybe this is the tuba for you...(??)

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PICTURES: I TOOK THEM TOO LATE IN THE DAY...NOT ENOUGH LIGHT...THUS THE GRAININESS...SO I WILL RE-TAKE THEM.
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Re: new (prototype) John Packer copy of gold-brass 191 BBb

Postby bloke » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:00 pm

pictures replaced.
hopefully they're better.
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Re: new (prototype) John Packer copy of gold-brass 191 BBb

Postby pecktime » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:02 pm

Beautiful tuba! :tuba:
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Re: new (prototype) John Packer copy of gold-brass 191 BBb

Postby Doc » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:03 am

Well... this would be a good time to have $4500.
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Re: new (prototype) John Packer copy of gold-brass 191 BBb

Postby bloke » Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:35 am

I'm bumping to reduce the price to $4195.
There will be no further price reductions.
a magnificent instrument - Asian pricing / German quality rotors and linkage

For those who aren't familiar with the 191 profile tuba...
This is very much a "piggy"-style instrument
- very large bore
- big 18-1/2" bell
- yet: only three feet tall

EXCELLENT intonation !
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Re: REDUCED (prototype) John Packer copy of gold-brass 191 B

Postby bloke » Tue May 16, 2017 3:18 pm

for price comparison...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Miraphone-S191-Series-4-Valve-BBb-Tuba-with-Hard-Case-/162516862340

:arrow: Think of "a very high-grade gold brass 191-style tuba with B&S-style rotors, paddles, genuine Minibal links", and an included case.
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