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King 1241 with BOTH bells, and 1902 Conn Helicon

Postby SousaWarrior9 » Sun May 27, 2018 11:52 pm

I’ve got some projects I need to finance so it’s time to clear out all the horns I don’t use regularly.

First up is a King 1241 with BOTH upright and recording bells. I purchased this horn from Lee Stofer in 2015. Lee did some excellent work on the horn, including venting all of the pistons, so they move light quick and slide-pulling is easy, although pulling slides won’t be necessary because these horns have point-and-shoot intonation and this example is no exception. This horn includes original cases (with the old-school bean-shaped body case), the recording bell is original to the horn, but the upright bell is not.
The issues: Both the horn itself and the bells have had some dents at some point in the past as evidence of rolled out dents on the bows and bell(s) are noticeable, but they are in good shape now. There is some minor plating missing on each of the pistons which I’ve pictured below, but the valves are still smooth and tight. The original “Easlake orange” lacquer is about 60-70% there on the horn and the recording bell, while the upright bell is raw brass. Typical King specs: .687 bore, and both bells are “22 in diameter. The horn may not be much of a looker, but it plays like a dream.
$2,200
Pictures:
Overall view of the horn:
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valve block closeup:
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Valves (showing slight wear and vents in each piston):
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Back:
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Upright bell flare:
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Recording bell front:
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Recording bell back:
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Cases exterior:
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Bell case interior:
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Body case interior:
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Next, I have a Conn BBb Helicon from 1902. The best part of this historic horn is that is still plays, and quite well! The valves have been replated, so they function like new valves, despite being on such on old horn. As a result, compression is great and valves are smooth. The slides are also in great shape with little to no wear. Aside from the silver plating on the valves, the horn is all original, with a great patina. Sound is very direct and punchy, and the horn is incredibly lightweight for its size. It also has a set of low-pitch slide extenders to put the horn in low-pitch BBb, if you're into that.
The Issues: The horn is in great shape and relatively dent free except for one crease in the bell. I'm not sure the neck and bits are original, and I do not have a case with this one. Approximately .732" bore, like most Conns, and about an 18" bell.
Would prefer not to ship this one.
$2,000
Also open to offers!
Pictures:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

Shipping would be via greyhound preferably Or if you are willing to meet me in person In the central Illinois area, even better.
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Re: King 1241, York Sousa, Wessex Baritone, Olds Bass Bone

Postby SousaWarrior9 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:02 pm

Update:

King 1241 is on hold

York Sousa has been spoken for

Olds Bass bone and Wessex Baritone are still available.
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Re: King 1241, Wessex Baritone, Olds Bass Bone

Postby Awegner2 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:08 pm

Some men are macho men. Others are Martin men.
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Re: King 1241, Conn Helicon, Wessex Baritone, Olds Bass Bone

Postby SousaWarrior9 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:01 am

Bump for lowered prices and an additional horn for your consideration!
Also, the King is back on the market.
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Re: King 1241, Conn Helicon, Wessex Baritone, Olds Bass Bone

Postby SousaWarrior9 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:47 pm

The King and the Wessex have been added to the tuba-euph Facebook marketplace
The King is out on another trial but still not sold yet, so there's sill time if you're interested!
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Re: King 1241, Conn Helicon, Wessex Baritone, Olds Bass Bone

Postby jmviehmann » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:05 am

How much is the helicon?
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Re: King 1241, Conn Helicon, Wessex Baritone, Olds Bass Bone

Postby SousaWarrior9 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:13 pm

jmviehmann wrote:How much is the helicon?


I was hoping to work out a trade with someone who possesses a Martin Mammoth of the front-action variety, because it would be easier to cut out the middle man, so to speak, because if I sold the helicon, that's exactly where the money would go. Sadly, no one has yet taken me up on the offer, so I may consider selling it outright. Would't want to ship it though if I did, though. I could be persuaded to let it go for around $3,000 if no one wanted to trade.
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Re: King 1241, Conn Helicon, Olds Bass Bone

Postby SousaWarrior9 » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:06 pm

UPDATE:
Wessex Baritone is sold!
The King is still out on trial. Waiting to hear back.
Open to offers on the helicon and bass bone.
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Re: King 1241 with BOTH bells, and 1902 Conn Helicon

Postby SousaWarrior9 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:25 pm

What an eventful past couple days!
Olds Bass Bone is SOLD pending funds.
and...
The King is back on the market once again!!
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Re: King 1241 with BOTH bells, and 1902 Conn Helicon

Postby SousaWarrior9 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:32 pm

lower price on the King!
The helicon also has an official price now at $2,500. It will be in Tube-Euph FB marketplace soon as well.
Need to clear out some space!
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Re: King 1241 with BOTH bells, and 1902 Conn Helicon

Postby SousaWarrior9 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 6:00 pm

NEW lower price on the Helicon! Come snatch up this amazing piece oh history in fantastic condition. You know you want this so you can turn heads at tubachristmas and standing gigs... :tuba:

King is also still available.
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