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King 1241, Conn Helicon, Wessex Baritone, Olds Bass Bone

Postby SousaWarrior9 » Sun May 27, 2018 11:52 pm

I’ve got some projects I need to finance so it’s time to clear out all the horns I don’t use regularly.

[BACK ON THE MARKET!] First up is a King 1241 with BOTH upright and recording bells. I purchased this horn from Lee Stofer in 2015. Lee did some excellent work on the horn, including venting all of the pistons, so they move light quick and slide-pulling is easy, although pulling slides won’t be necessary because these horns have point-and-shoot intonation and this example is no exception. This horn includes original cases (with the old-school bean-shaped body case), the recording bell is original to the horn, but the upright bell is not.
The issues: Both the horn itself and the bells have had some dents at some point in the past as evidence of rolled out dents on the bows and bell(s) are noticeable, but they are in good shape now. There is some minor plating missing on each of the pistons which I’ve pictured below, but the valves are still smooth and tight. The original “Easlake orange” lacquer is about 60-70% there on the horn and the recording bell, while the upright bell is raw brass. Typical King specs: .687 bore, and both bells are “22 in diameter. The horn may not be much of a looker, but it plays like a dream.
$2,500
Pictures:
Overall view of the horn:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hn2SKO ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FQh37F ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
valve block closeup:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KxIf4C ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Valves (showing slight wear and vents in each piston):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13jT15h ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Back:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12d1AQT ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Upright bell flare:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A6L3lH ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Recording bell front:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lGjVyZ ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Recording bell back:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lnH4nn ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Cases exterior:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pt_gT8 ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Bell case interior:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GlWU2B ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Body case interior:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cHUcq0 ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

Next, I have a Conn BBb Helicon from 1902. The best part of this historic horn is that is still plays, and quite well! The valves have been replated, so they function like new valves, despite being on such on old horn. As a result, compression is great and valves are smooth. The slides are also in great shape with little to no wear. Aside from the silver plating on the valves, the horn is all original, with a great patina. Sound is very direct and punchy, and the horn is incredibly lightweight for its size. It also has a set of low-pitch slide extenders to put the horn in low-pitch BBb, if you're into that.
The Issues: The horn is in great shape and relatively dent free except for one crease in the bell. I'm not sure the neck and bits are original, and I do not have a case with this one. Approximately .732" bore, like most Conns, and about an 18" bell.
Would prefer not to ship this one, and right now, am only considering trades specifically for a Martin Mammoth, preferably with front-action valves.
Pictures:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing" target="_blank

Next is a Wessex BR115L 4-valve Bellfront Baritone. This horn is essentially a clone of the King 2266, but with nickel-silver trim. I purchased this horn brand new in 2016, but haven’t had as many opportunities to double on euphonium as I thought.
The issues: The horn has a like-new lacquer finish, and only a couple minor dings on the back of the bell. Other than the dings and some slight valve wear, this horn is in nearly new condition and includes the original Wessex semi-hard case and gold-plated mouthpiece.
Asking $750
Pictures:
Front:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jGg-tr ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Back:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/16LOpU4 ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Minor dings in back of bell:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/184IzaJ ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Case exterior:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WVkXYB ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Case back with backpack straps:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C63-zX ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Case interior:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bjz823 ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

Next is an Olds super Bb/F single-rotor bass trombone. This horn features tuning in the handslide, so the bell crook can maintain a consistent taper. The horn is in lacquer with silver trim, and has a single F attachment with a flat wrap. It plays open and smooth but can still cut when you push it, and the slide action is nice. The trigger mechanism broke shortly after I purchased it and I actually repaired it myself under the guidance of legendary horn builder/customizer/repairman Mike Corrigan at the BAC factory. I also have the original case as well.
The issues: the case is worn but still functional. Lacquer is still mostly there but has its fair share of scratches. Slide lock is functional but finicky, so be careful, the reach to the F trigger is long, so it could be uncomfortable for someone with small hands. .547/.562 dual-bore slide, 9” bell
Prefer to trade for a Martin Bass bone, but will consider selling for $950
Overall shot:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cE8i0N ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
F-attachment closeup:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LoPcm3 ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Bell scratches closeup:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mXLpfR ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Tuning mechanism:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wlnZUb ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Inner and outer slides:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jJ9cHM ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Engraving:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uoxu5Q ... sp=sharing" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

Shipping would be via greyhound preferably Or if you are willing to meet me in person In the central Illinois area, even better.
Last edited by SousaWarrior9 on Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:59 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: King 1241, York Sousa, Wessex Baritone, Olds Bass Bone

Postby SousaWarrior9 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:02 pm

Update:

King 1241 is on hold

York Sousa has been spoken for

Olds Bass bone and Wessex Baritone are still available.
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Re: King 1241, Wessex Baritone, Olds Bass Bone

Postby Awegner2 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:08 pm

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Re: King 1241, Conn Helicon, Wessex Baritone, Olds Bass Bone

Postby SousaWarrior9 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:01 am

Bump for lowered prices and an additional horn for your consideration!
Also, the King is back on the market.
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