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I currently have a conn helleburg and am looking for a mouthpiece that shares the same kind of rim (flat, thin) but with a deeper cup. I've seen the PT-50 (not really sure about the rim width on it, though) and MF3-H, but I want to know about any other options that I don't know about.
The Sellmansberger (a.k.a. blokepiece) Symphony model is, I think, a deeper mouthpiece that might be of interest to you even though its not strictly a helleberg. I picked it after a long period of trying many different mouthpieces (including the mouthpieces you list), and I haven't found another deep mouthpiece I like better. You can get different rims for them, including narrow, flat ones.
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A Wick 1L is pretty deep. I don't know if it's deeper than a blokepiece, but it's pretty deep. 1.28 cup diameter, fairly narrow rim, slightly rounded. With its large throat, it plays even deeper.
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I really, really like the MF 3-H, and based on what you're describing, I think it's worth your time. It's a kickass big helleberg-like mouthpiece, and pretty much exactly what you're looking for.
I'd check out Marcinkiewicz, too. The rim on the H1 is pretty dang close to a helleberg rim, and the depth is pretty substantial.
The Perantucci rims are really cushiony and wide, and aren't going to do it for you.
I doubt that my Symphony model cup is much - if any - "deeper" than a Conn (120 or 7B) "Helleberg".
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According to my crude measurements, depth is the same on Marcinkiewicz H1 vs. Kellyberg.
But, two points that come up in the process:
Agreed, the Symphony is a medium deep mouthpiece. The difference is in the cup and throat shape.
The regular Helleberg is 1.30" inside.
In my mouthpieces I offer a Flat Narrow rim option that is the same as the Conn Helleberg shape. So a Flat Narrow 130 is basically a copy of a Helleberg rim.
My T cup is deeper than a Helleberg, but basically the same style of cup.
I know somebody who has a Dennis Wick 1L, I'll ask them about trying it. My experiences with marcinkiewicz mouthpieces were... sub par. I'll look into the blokepieces and Doug Elliot mouthpieces. Thanks for the replies.
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