Elephant's "Ad" complaint thread...

[PMeuph]

Elephant, have you enabled hosts files on your computer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_%28file%29" target="_blank

http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/" target="_blank

[The Big Ben]

Wade's point is not about what *he* sees but, rather, what other people see when they access TubeNet.

If I tell someone who is interested in the Tuba, "Hey, look at TubeNet. Good info there." and, when they access it, something offensive comes up, *I* now have a problem.
Nothing *I* do to *my* computer can solve this problem. The only thing that can solve this problem is to sever the connection between TubeNet and offensive advertising.

[PMeuph]

Wade's point is not about what *he* sees but, rather, what other people see when they access TubeNet.

If I tell someone who is interested in the Tuba, "Hey, look at TubeNet. Good info there." and, when they access it, something offensive comes up, *I* now have a problem.
Nothing *I* do to *my* computer can solve this problem. The only thing that can solve this problem is to sever the connection between TubeNet and offensive advertising.

I get his point, but if the hosts files do indeed clear up the advertising, couldn't one just say: "you might want to visit this site, but make sure your hosts files on your computer are up to date."

FWIW, here were my suggestions:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=48462" target="_blank

[The Big Ben]

Wade's point is not about what *he* sees but, rather, what other people see when they access TubeNet.

If I tell someone who is interested in the Tuba, "Hey, look at TubeNet. Good info there." and, when they access it, something offensive comes up, *I* now have a problem.
Nothing *I* do to *my* computer can solve this problem. The only thing that can solve this problem is to sever the connection between TubeNet and offensive advertising.

I get his point, but if the hosts files do indeed clear up the advertising, couldn't one just say: "you might want to visit this site, but make sure your hosts files on your computer are up to date."

Even at this late date, so many computer users think of the Internet and computers as "magic boxes" and refuse to comprehend how it all works. That keeps a million IT workers in jobs but it is a little unrealistic to expect most people to know what a /etc/hosts file *is*, *where* it is and, furthermore, how to tweek it to keep offensive advertising off their computer screens.

Kinda like inviting a blind man to walk through a cow pasture and telling him, "There might be cowpies out there. If you don't want to step in them, be sure to look closely."

[Bob Kolada]

Photos in threads are not the same as ADVERTISEMENT PROMOTING SEXUAL INTERCOURSE BETWEEN ADULTS AND MINORS. Just how stupid do people have to be to not see this? A busty beer chick equates with diddling children? Are you insane?
I hope to God that some of you are never parents or teachers if you cannot differentiate between the two! Maybe you would like to compare the beer chicks to bestiality sites, too? "Dude, set me up with a link to some animal/human action." "Sure, man. Just go to TubeNet."

Please do not call me stupid or insane (that Florida fellow in another thread had the delightful suggestion that I should return to the circus. Go to hell, dude).

One is worse than the other, yes, but both are bad. How can you not see this? I like you Wade, but you're not catching on here. A five page thread full of lewd jokes after an initial posting of a woman in some s&m lingerie riding a tuba is something that should concern those concerned about parents and children on the forum.

[PMeuph]

One is worse than the other, yes, but both are bad. How can you not see this? I like you Wade, but you're not catching on here. A five page thread full of lewd jokes after an initial posting of a woman in some s&m lingerie riding a tuba is something that should concern those concerned about parents and children on the forum.

To me, since I don't see any of the sketchy advertisement, I have to say that one is clearly worse than the other.

(Actually, as we are speaking, the ads are far from being offensive, they are almost praise worthy)

[Tubaryan12]

Suggesting this site to minor students seems to fly in the face of the number one laughed about bit of advice given on this site: "go ask your teacher".

Students that are curious enough, and computer savy enough will find TubeNet on their own. The parents can then blame someone else for what their children see on the web.

FWIW

[Uncle Buck]

I guess if I took you off my "foe" list then I could read and comply with your request . . .

NOTICE:

DO NOT READ THIS POSTING !

[Bob Kolada]

I guess if I took you off my "foe" list then I could read and comply with your request . . .

NOTICE:

DO NOT READ THIS POSTING !

Snap! That would require some sort of never ending, circular, scenario.

[ShoelessWes]

[PMeuph]

I read this post:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=48646" target="_blank

Ans then when I read the current one these are the ads I got:

[tubaguy9]

I gotta go with the elephant on this, and take it one step further.
Good old' bloke's ad is regular prostitution...
the elephant's ad is prostitution of old women for young guys.

[windshieldbug]

The trombone guys are driving themselves nuts truying to figure out how to GET this kind of advertising...

[NDSPTuba]

You guys still don't understand how adsense works. The cache it is referring to on on YOUR computer not the tubenet website's computer. A easy way to see how it works, is go to google and search some product. I did it for spanx ( a type of women's figure controlling undergarment ) because I saw an article about and didn't have any idea what the heck it was. The next thing I know I was seeing ads on every site I visited that had ad sense on it, I saw ads for spanx undergarments. Even on THIS VERY SITE.

The key thing here is, it is using cached info on YOUR computer to offer up ads that YOU might be interested in. So if you are seeing ads that are offensive, it is because the ad sense engine found keys words in YOUR cache that said they would be good ads to run. I not saying that you search for offensive stuff ( I'm not ruling it out either ) but you did at some point search using words that are now cached on you computer that the ad sense engine is using to try and market directly to YOU. It has NOTHING to do with the content on this site. All you have to do is clear the cache in YOUR browser and they offensive ads "should" go away. That all depends on the algorithm used by the ad sense engine. Clear your cookies also.

The reason it has started showing up on here as of late, is probably as simple as those ads weren't on ad sense until recently.

All that being said, Sean probably could dictate the types of ads that are allowed on this site.

[Dan Schultz]

.....These ads were not appearing based on MY computer. They were appearing on computers all over MISSISSIPPI. Hello? They were about consensual sex between children and adults. They cost me a student and saw a parent bashing my reputation because they were visible on her very locked down computer. ....

She needs to be looking at HER computer activities... or perhaps someone else on her network.

Wade... it's not Tubenet's fault.

[PMeuph]

You guys still don't understand how adsense works. The cache it is referring to on on YOUR computer not the tubenet website's computer. A easy way to see how it works, is go to google and search some product. I did it for spanx ( a type of women's figure controlling undergarment ) because I saw an article about and didn't have any idea what the heck it was. The next thing I know I was seeing ads on every site I visited that had ad sense on it, I saw ads for spanx undergarments. Even on THIS VERY SITE.

The key thing here is, it is using cached info on YOUR computer to offer up ads that YOU might be interested in. So if you are seeing ads that are offensive, it is because the ad sense engine found keys words in YOUR cache that said they would be good ads to run. I not saying that you search for offensive stuff ( I'm not ruling it out either ) but you did at some point search using words that are now cached on you computer that the ad sense engine is using to try and market directly to YOU. It has NOTHING to do with the content on this site. All you have to do is clear the cache in YOUR browser and they offensive ads "should" go away. That all depends on the algorithm used by the ad sense engine. Clear your cookies also.

The reason it has started showing up on here as of late, is probably as simple as those ads weren't on ad sense until recently.

All that being said, Sean probably could dictate the types of ads that are allowed on this site.

It's the HOSTS files not the Cache that the adsense reads on your computer. It seems like it hasn't used cache in a couple years. Otherwise, Adsense is Context Driven. The point I made last time is that there are few tuba advertisers out there. (there are only 2-3) Thus, with their system google goes to the closest things it can find ads for. Sadly, those are dating sites. Probably because words like "Dating" "Girls", etc are more common on this page than other keywords associated with other ads. Ultimately, there is not much Sean can do....

Adsense does use the IP to determine your location. I see ads for Canadian dating sites occasionally when I use my iPod touch. (Though nothing as bad as The Elephant describes) Because I have a HOSTS file enabled on my computer, I don't see any sketchy ads.

Wade, my advice for you is that you stop recommending this board to students, and recommend David Werden's. I have never seen any ads there, the content is usually pretty good and several people on that board reference this one. I am sorry it cost you a student and your reputation, I still can't see how people how so not understanding when it comes to the internet....

[Uncle Buck]

She needs to be looking at HER computer activities... or perhaps someone else on her network.

Wade... it's not Tubenet's fault.

I tend to believe Wade is correct. The issue here is the content WITHIN Tubenet. The language that is posted within the Tubenet threads is what is generating this advertising.

Individual user computers may have browsing data that contribute to the problem - but the problem exists independent of that.

Having said all of that, Tubenet is what it is. So don't recommend it to your minor students.

[Tubaryan12]

I tend to believe Wade is correct. The issue here is the content WITHIN Tubenet. The language that is posted within the Tubenet threads is what is generating this advertising.

Individual user computers may have browsing data that contribute to the problem - but the problem exists independent of that.

Having said all of that, Tubenet is what it is. So don't recommend it to your minor students.

Remember, there is a post from bloke stating that he got the ads on a brand new computer if I remember correctly. Odds are it's as much internal than external. With that being said, Tubenet has long been a place I wouldn't recommend to minors. Sad, but true. Hell, there is very little that the web has to offer that I would recommend to minors.

[Dan Schultz]

I wonder how many kids watched the boobies and listened to the double-speak on The Oscars last night!

[Biggs]

I wonder how many kids watched the boobies and listened to the double-speak on The Oscars last night!

I did! They were by far preferable to the boobies one encounters on TubeNet.