Elephant's "Ad" complaint thread...

[Bob Kolada]

I guess if I took you off my "foe" list then I could read and comply with your request . . .

NOTICE:

DO NOT READ THIS POSTING !

Snap! That would require some sort of never ending, circular, scenario.

[ShoelessWes]

[PMeuph]

I read this post:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=48646" target="_blank

Ans then when I read the current one these are the ads I got:

[tubaguy9]

I gotta go with the elephant on this, and take it one step further.
Good old' bloke's ad is regular prostitution...
the elephant's ad is prostitution of old women for young guys.

[windshieldbug]

The trombone guys are driving themselves nuts truying to figure out how to GET this kind of advertising...

[NDSPTuba]

You guys still don't understand how adsense works. The cache it is referring to on on YOUR computer not the tubenet website's computer. A easy way to see how it works, is go to google and search some product. I did it for spanx ( a type of women's figure controlling undergarment ) because I saw an article about and didn't have any idea what the heck it was. The next thing I know I was seeing ads on every site I visited that had ad sense on it, I saw ads for spanx undergarments. Even on THIS VERY SITE.

The key thing here is, it is using cached info on YOUR computer to offer up ads that YOU might be interested in. So if you are seeing ads that are offensive, it is because the ad sense engine found keys words in YOUR cache that said they would be good ads to run. I not saying that you search for offensive stuff ( I'm not ruling it out either ) but you did at some point search using words that are now cached on you computer that the ad sense engine is using to try and market directly to YOU. It has NOTHING to do with the content on this site. All you have to do is clear the cache in YOUR browser and they offensive ads "should" go away. That all depends on the algorithm used by the ad sense engine. Clear your cookies also.

The reason it has started showing up on here as of late, is probably as simple as those ads weren't on ad sense until recently.

All that being said, Sean probably could dictate the types of ads that are allowed on this site.

[Dan Schultz]

.....These ads were not appearing based on MY computer. They were appearing on computers all over MISSISSIPPI. Hello? They were about consensual sex between children and adults. They cost me a student and saw a parent bashing my reputation because they were visible on her very locked down computer. ....

She needs to be looking at HER computer activities... or perhaps someone else on her network.

Wade... it's not Tubenet's fault.

[PMeuph]

You guys still don't understand how adsense works. The cache it is referring to on on YOUR computer not the tubenet website's computer. A easy way to see how it works, is go to google and search some product. I did it for spanx ( a type of women's figure controlling undergarment ) because I saw an article about and didn't have any idea what the heck it was. The next thing I know I was seeing ads on every site I visited that had ad sense on it, I saw ads for spanx undergarments. Even on THIS VERY SITE.

The key thing here is, it is using cached info on YOUR computer to offer up ads that YOU might be interested in. So if you are seeing ads that are offensive, it is because the ad sense engine found keys words in YOUR cache that said they would be good ads to run. I not saying that you search for offensive stuff ( I'm not ruling it out either ) but you did at some point search using words that are now cached on you computer that the ad sense engine is using to try and market directly to YOU. It has NOTHING to do with the content on this site. All you have to do is clear the cache in YOUR browser and they offensive ads "should" go away. That all depends on the algorithm used by the ad sense engine. Clear your cookies also.

The reason it has started showing up on here as of late, is probably as simple as those ads weren't on ad sense until recently.

All that being said, Sean probably could dictate the types of ads that are allowed on this site.

It's the HOSTS files not the Cache that the adsense reads on your computer. It seems like it hasn't used cache in a couple years. Otherwise, Adsense is Context Driven. The point I made last time is that there are few tuba advertisers out there. (there are only 2-3) Thus, with their system google goes to the closest things it can find ads for. Sadly, those are dating sites. Probably because words like "Dating" "Girls", etc are more common on this page than other keywords associated with other ads. Ultimately, there is not much Sean can do....

Adsense does use the IP to determine your location. I see ads for Canadian dating sites occasionally when I use my iPod touch. (Though nothing as bad as The Elephant describes) Because I have a HOSTS file enabled on my computer, I don't see any sketchy ads.

Wade, my advice for you is that you stop recommending this board to students, and recommend David Werden's. I have never seen any ads there, the content is usually pretty good and several people on that board reference this one. I am sorry it cost you a student and your reputation, I still can't see how people how so not understanding when it comes to the internet....

[Uncle Buck]

She needs to be looking at HER computer activities... or perhaps someone else on her network.

Wade... it's not Tubenet's fault.

I tend to believe Wade is correct. The issue here is the content WITHIN Tubenet. The language that is posted within the Tubenet threads is what is generating this advertising.

Individual user computers may have browsing data that contribute to the problem - but the problem exists independent of that.

Having said all of that, Tubenet is what it is. So don't recommend it to your minor students.

[Tubaryan12]

I tend to believe Wade is correct. The issue here is the content WITHIN Tubenet. The language that is posted within the Tubenet threads is what is generating this advertising.

Individual user computers may have browsing data that contribute to the problem - but the problem exists independent of that.

Having said all of that, Tubenet is what it is. So don't recommend it to your minor students.

Remember, there is a post from bloke stating that he got the ads on a brand new computer if I remember correctly. Odds are it's as much internal than external. With that being said, Tubenet has long been a place I wouldn't recommend to minors. Sad, but true. Hell, there is very little that the web has to offer that I would recommend to minors.

[Dan Schultz]

I wonder how many kids watched the boobies and listened to the double-speak on The Oscars last night!

[Biggs]

I wonder how many kids watched the boobies and listened to the double-speak on The Oscars last night!

I did! They were by far preferable to the boobies one encounters on TubeNet.

[gwwilk]

I wonder how many kids watched the boobies and listened to the double-speak on The Oscars last night!

I did! They were by far preferable to the boobies one encounters on TubeNet.

Isn't that like saying "I would never join a club that would have me as a member"?

[PMeuph]

I believe that the advertiser was pulling a fast one and posting different ads than what they contracted for, using mundane words to see if they could get around filters that way....

....

I still believe that some company was spoofing Google and that Google pulled the ads themselves.

Since Adsense came out, several people have tried to earn full time salaries using adsense and have claimed that you can become rich. Some people who read these types of "programs" ( You can buy plenty on ebay for $10), will try whatever they can to lure people into there traps. Adsense sometimes gives out vouchers to incite new customers. The owner of the website you were seeing, probably had one of those.

But honestly, Wade, Have you tried a tweaked "hosts" file on your computer? It might be better than adblock....

[ShoelessWes]

Just an update:

Tubenet was blocked from use at the Sheraton in Oklahoma City this last weekend, where I was working. It cited that it was, "A webpage that contains indecent Pornographic Material or References!"

[The Big Ben]

Has anyone given further thought to a different funding model for TubeNet?

If the random/semi-random advertising was removed and replaced with donations and/or genuine musical advertising content placed by TubeNet, some or all of TubeNet's blocking problems would disappear. This would take organization and cooperation from Sean but has anyone else considered this as a possibility?

Aa random thought which has come to me is that, perhaps, "TubeNet" as a name is being misinterpreted by filtering agents. Variations of the "YouTube" name are being used to draw attention to sites which provide dorn video content. Or, the 'tube' in TubeNet is being interpreted as refering to male 'tubes'.

Jeff "Grasping at straws" Benedict

[PMeuph]

Has anyone given further thought to a different funding model for TubeNet?

If the random/semi-random advertising was removed and replaced with donations and/or genuine musical advertising content placed by TubeNet, some or all of TubeNet's blocking problems would disappear. This would take organization and cooperation from Sean but has anyone else considered this as a possibility?

Aa random thought which has come to me is that, perhaps, "TubeNet" as a name is being misinterpreted by filtering agents. Variations of the "YouTube" name are being used to draw attention to sites which provide dorn video content. Or, the 'tube' in TubeNet is being interpreted as refering to male 'tubes'.

Jeff "Grasping at straws" Benedict

Here was my response several weeks ago to diffent funding models...

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=48462.." target="_blank. target="_blank.

It might be that

"TubeNet" as a name is being misinterpreted by filtering agents.

It could also be that certain words (used innocently) like dating, girls, "Naked Lady" are found on this board and are misinterpreted. With the filtering of some algorithm these "keywords" might be drawing in the ads....

[ppalan]

I just installed a free app on my MacBook called Do Not Track Plus (DNT+) from a company called Abine http://www.abine.com/dntdetail.php?. All of the offending ads on the right side of the screen are gone. After the quick download and install, there's a small icon on the top right corner of my Firefox window. Clicking this icon gives you itemized list of what's blocked and who's tracking you. (e.g. Google Adsense) It seems to work extremely well and the free isn't just an introductory or time-limited version. Here's info from the above referenced website:

Free tool that puts you back in control of your information
Best available blocking stops more than 600 trackers
Compatible with Mac or PC for Chrome, Firefox, Safari, and Internet Explorer
Automatically updates to catch new trackers

Hope this is of some use to folks; those ads were annoying and certainly wholly inappropriate in a school setting.
Pete

[JB]

I just installed a free app on my MacBook called Do Not Track Plus (DNT+) from a company called Abine http://www.abine.com/dntdetail.php?.

Thanks for that. This works very well!...

+1. This remedy resulted in a very significant/positive change in the "viewing experience" on this site (at least for me) with the 'questionable ad' matter. (In other words, suddenly more "kid/wife/student -friendly...)

[Rick F]

Pete,

I installed DNT+ into my browser (FF-10) and it works very well. Surprised how many tracking sites are out there on most sites... not to mention the ads. Then I turned off my 'HOSTS' file to see if DNT+ would stop ALL of the ads, and it does! HOSTS file has to be updated about once each month, but this plug-in automatically updates.

Thanks for that.