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John Packer 3/4 four-rotor BBb

Postby bloke » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:05 pm

For quite a few years, copies of the small-bore Meinl-Weston model 186 (NOT to be confused with the Miraphone 186) have been seen coming out of China.

Finally, here's a John Packer version with very high-grade rotors and linkage.

- 15" bell
- about 35" tall
- 16mm bore

...case included, of course, and the mouthpiece with this one somewhat resembles a Bach 22.

' not a great photograph, but you get the idea... :D

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Re: John Packer 3/4 four-rotor BBb

Postby Davidus1 » Sun May 22, 2016 9:22 pm

Hi. Have you played one of these? Would be curious what you think of them for a more advanced player for solo/quintet work. Are they stuffy or more free blowing. Any thoughts on this appreciated.
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Re: John Packer 3/4 four-rotor BBb

Postby Three Valves » Tue May 24, 2016 8:07 am

Me likey!!
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Re: John Packer 3/4 four-rotor BBb

Postby Mark » Tue May 24, 2016 12:12 pm

bloke wrote:Finally, here's a John Packer version with very high-grade rotors and linkage.


Price?
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Re: John Packer 3/4 four-rotor BBb

Postby Mark Finley » Tue May 24, 2016 5:10 pm

Do you have one of these to try? That's a cool design, I'm wondering how the Gramophone type bell flare sounds. It "looks" like the horn stays pretty small until the very last ferrule, but maybe that's an illusion.
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Re: John Packer 3/4 four-rotor BBb

Postby bloke » Tue May 24, 2016 9:26 pm

58mark wrote:Do you have one of these to try? That's a cool design, I'm wondering how the Gramophone type bell flare sounds. It "looks" like the horn stays pretty small until the very last ferrule, but maybe that's an illusion.



I had one around here for a while and sold it.
Again, it's a complete knock off of a MEINL-WESTON (NOT Miraphone) model 186...
...so (yes) Packer offers TWO 3/4 size BBb tubas...one with a fairly large bore that is "piggy"-ish, and this one with a VERY small bore - a tiny bit larger than 5/8"... .630" bore... SLIGHTLY larger bore than the small-bore Conn Eb tubas of the 1920's...except rotary, and BBb.
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Re: John Packer 3/4 four-rotor BBb

Postby bloke » Tue May 24, 2016 9:29 pm

Mark wrote:
bloke wrote:Finally, here's a John Packer version with very high-grade rotors and linkage.


Price?


I'm a little bit at a disadvantage. Prices below M.A.P. are not supposed to be published.
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