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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Three Valves » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:44 am

MN_TimTuba wrote:In BBb piston, whether you do a 4/4, 5/4, or that 6/4 that everyone talks about, can someone engineer a way to fully empty all valve slides at once, as on some rotary horns? The water-spin can be a real task for a big horn in a tight place, and is pretty distracting to your audience. Finally, there must be a way to incorporate a modified Amati spit valve. Maybe it's not an issue for everyone, but I seem to catch the spring-loaded levers on my horns on chairs, clothes, and what-not too often. Thank you.


I didn't realize what a big plus that was until I owned a rotary!!
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Lectron » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:45 pm

Wyvern wrote:
Lectron wrote:I tried the Excelsior and it was not a good tuba.

In your opinion :) Other players, including some in Championship bands like it.

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Didn't see much to it there ;)
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby 58mark » Mon May 08, 2017 4:57 pm

I don't know if it's been said, but what about a really nice bass trumpet? (not the typical bland jinbao offerings)

I've heard the schagerl in person, and it's amazing
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Steginkt » Sun May 14, 2017 12:22 am

I'm still holding out for a 6/4 345 style CC. Wouldnt say no to a contrabass trombone. Many are too expensive for schools to justify purchasing
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby 58mark » Sun May 14, 2017 7:44 am

They offer a contrabass trombone
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Steginkt » Sun May 14, 2017 11:22 am

In BBb? Or just the one in F?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Sun May 14, 2017 11:26 am

Steginkt wrote:In BBb? Or just the one in F?

Both! Only the F is on website at present, but the BBb will be back up again (by popular request) in the next month.

Steginkt wrote:I'm still holding out for a 6/4 345 style CC

We have something even better than that on its way shortly :)
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby joshealejo » Sun May 14, 2017 12:26 pm

Wyvern wrote:
Steginkt wrote:In BBb? Or just the one in F?

Both! Only the F is on website at present, but the BBb will be back up again (by popular request) in the next month.

Steginkt wrote:I'm still holding out for a 6/4 345 style CC

We have something even better than that on its way shortly :)


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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Heliconer » Sun May 14, 2017 3:05 pm

Perhaps this is an odd one.... but any thoughts of producing anything like the Sarrusophone? Bass/contrabass?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Sun May 14, 2017 3:37 pm

Heliconer wrote:Perhaps this is an odd one.... but any thoughts of producing anything like the Sarrusophone? Bass/contrabass?

Have considered and as quickly abandoned. Don't want Wessex to get into developing reed instruments. Better to stick with 'brass' which we understand :roll:

I can say a new model bass trombone developed with Chris Stearn of Scottish Opera is on its way. Mark 2 prototype has just been approved...and it is a good-in.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby 58mark » Sun May 14, 2017 3:57 pm

What about a front action version of the Eb symphonic?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby DouglasJB » Sun May 14, 2017 10:36 pm

With a 4P1R set up or 983 style compensating setup?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby 58mark » Sun May 14, 2017 11:06 pm

Either, but I'm assuming since they already have a 4p1r Eb, a larger compensating Eb would be the next step to not compete with they already offer.

I like the way the gnagey plays, but hate the ergonomics. The valve block is at a very uncomfortable position for me.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby DouglasJB » Sun May 14, 2017 11:36 pm

That's what I ran into. Valve blocks turned like those are uncomfortable, I'd prefer the more straight up and down (Eastman/King like).
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby 58mark » Mon May 15, 2017 5:26 am

The valve block on my Conn is set at a 45 degree angle to the body. It's so comfortable and natural. I've had carpel tunnel problems when I bend my wrist to accommodate a valve block that is parallel with the body. I can cheat hand position on a rotary horn, but not piston.

I wish more horns were like this. Earlier in the thread I asked for a rotary tuba with a Marzan positioned rotary valve block. I've always wanted one of those.


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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Lectron » Mon May 15, 2017 9:45 am

58mark wrote:
I like the way the gnagey plays, but hate the ergonomics. The valve block is at a very uncomfortable position for me.

That was commented on prior production, but for some reason just not a priorety.
Straight or slanted (the other way :) ) would work much better.....like your small conn.
......that's not really that small. Compact, yes
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Mon May 15, 2017 10:13 am

The problem is it is very difficult to change the angle of the valve block. It means a complete re-design which in turn might cause some other adverse effect
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby 58mark » Mon May 15, 2017 10:27 am

Understood, which is why I suggested converting a different Eb to a front valve configuration, maybe a larger, compensating one.

Start from scratch with a larger horn if you're happy with what you have with the gnagey
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby LowBrassNYC » Mon May 15, 2017 2:25 pm

I'd love to see a 6-valve cimbasso in a 5+1 configuration. Tempest currently offers one built off the same Rudy Meinl bugle, but the valve block is a total mess and the horn is not very ergonomic. Maybe include a 1st and 2nd valve tuning slide levers and perhaps a detachable bell for easier transport.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Steginkt » Tue May 16, 2017 9:01 pm

What about a nice 3/4 CC tuba? Thinking along the lines of a 184 that works well in pit, chamber music, or small ensembles?
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