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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby mannyBD » Tue Jun 07, 2016 4:54 pm

bloke wrote:...??
I would think that it might be difficult to play all of the chromatic pitches easily and with a good sound with only 2 pistons.


I see what you did there :D , and yes it would be hard with two pistons
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby tclements » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:35 pm

5/4 CC tuba (think Alexander 163) SIX valves (4+2, long 1/2 step + long whole step) with a main slide tuning jigger under right thumb. Gold brass.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Bob Kolada » Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:37 am

F contrabass trumpet!
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby TheGoyWonder » Thu Jun 09, 2016 1:09 am

The XL appears to have a 6/4 bell although the body is not nearly 6/4, but maybe that's a more interesting intonation/big sound compromise than a traditional 6/4. The "XXL" unveil will be highly anticipated, but who knows if there's a market there.

random ideas:
Yamaha 641 (or equivalent butch 4/4 size big bore german style) with better intonation. Maybe with 5th valve for sex appeal.
King on steroids - stretched out to the old 41" height but with the new more open bell. Subtract skinny tubing to make pitch.

ongoing quest for The Next Brassband BBb:
Heavyweight 4/4 seems to have been eliminated from the market outside prescription brands...think old King or classic Besson. Gotta be 5v front action because obvious, not too big of bore but expanding kinda fast after valves and decent size body like a Besson. Bell not too big but thick brass. Maybe a return to form is due, and a heavyweight 4/4 with modern amenities will fall into favor for brass band. Something to try other than making yet another sorta-5/4.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby UncleBeer » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:16 pm

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One more request: big American-style pancake bells, like this. They get a sound with a big aura that's impossible to match.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby FarahShazam » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:15 am

Natural tuba with crooks. Seems difficult to get one's hands in the bell, however.

:P

Okay, not really, but it would be super neat to see a tuba without valves pitched in C.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Mark Finley » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:21 am

I want a bass horn like Roger Bobo
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby TheGoyWonder » Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:55 am

Just super general, but instead of making an entire line of well-rounded do-everything tubas...why not be a little more specialized and in the marketing be direct in the strengths. Say if you've got 5 sorta-5/4 tubas, which you do, have one with intonation above all else, one with flexibility/hi range above all else, one dedicated to big string-bass tone, one with easiest basement register, one focused on heavy sound in low range. So you choose by what you want, as opposed to a totally generic laundry list of strengths.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby bort » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:01 pm

bort wrote:Made in the UK? :)
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby darth2ba » Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:04 pm

I have to say that I really enjoyed the "Berg" 4/4 F. I've been wanting to test this model out for a few months now, and the one you guys had at ITEC was pretty much "plug-n-chug" - intonation, playability and sound were all excellent. For those who prefer pistons, I think it would be fantastic if Wessex came out with a piston version of the "Berg" and "Strauss" F tubas.

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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby tuben » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:59 pm

tclements wrote:5/4 CC tuba (think Alexander 163) SIX valves (4+2, long 1/2 step + long whole step)


I played once an Alex 163 in red brass but with the arrangement you describe.
Was not at all pleasant.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby arpthark » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:30 pm

What happened to the 6v F tuba? Could the Berg be reconfigured in a 6 valve model? I'd be interested.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:07 am

arpthark wrote:What happened to the 6v F tuba? Could the Berg be reconfigured in a 6 valve model? I'd be interested.

That was discontinued as the Berg is a far better playing tuba. Wessex may reintroduce an 6-valve F in the future, but only if we can make as good as the Berg
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Patrase » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:06 am

What about the Berg with 5th and 6th valve in the 4th valve circuit? Set it up so index finger plus flat whole tone and middle finger plays flat half tone. I think one model of B&S has dependant 5th and 6th valve.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby DouglasJB » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:10 pm

Are you referring to the MW 2260?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby ufonium2 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:03 pm

What about a euphonium not based on the Yamaha 642? Seems like there are all these cool tuba options now, and for pro-level euphoniums we just have a couple of variations on the same basic design. I've never liked Yamaha euphoniums and I can't get excited about a clone based on one. If there were something that felt/sounded more like a Willson or Meinl, I think you'd get a lot of interest.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby arpthark » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:34 pm

Speaking of Willsons, Jonathan, does Wessex have any input as far as the thickness of the sheet brass or is one thickness used for most applications? Willsons have such thick brass, I wonder if that would bear some grounds for experimentation at the factory.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby bisontuba » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:40 pm

Probably with ophicleides and quinticlaves already available,both Eb and Bb keyed bugles should be done....
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby iiipopes » Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:22 pm

On the BR115 American valve-front bell-front bari/euph hybrid, I would like the bell full front, not canted. In American concert bands, we play along with the woodwinds in many passages, and there are times we have to dip the bell or mute to not play over the rest of the woodwinds, especially if we have to play bass clarinet or bassoon cues when one of those instruments is not available in community concert band. I'm using a Humes & Berg 164A (modified) mute, and it is still all I can do to keep it toned down enough to blend.

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I might add that this is the only reason I have not purchased one, as I am looking forward to the Wessex with its .571 bore being just that tad bit rounder in the lower register than the "traditional" .562 bore of the Kings, Conns, etc.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:35 pm

arpthark wrote:Speaking of Willsons, Jonathan, does Wessex have any input as far as the thickness of the sheet brass or is one thickness used for most applications? Willsons have such thick brass, I wonder if that would bear some grounds for experimentation at the factory.

The answer is yes. We are already experimenting with different brass thicknesses

ValveSlide, Wessex is not finished in UK. If anyone is so misinformed, they probably bought from shop, or used. We never make such claims ourselves.

iiipopes, Regarding the bell angle of baritone, I will get changed when next batch are manufactured
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