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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Mark Finley » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:42 pm

iiipopes wrote:Wessex Version derived therefrom:
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I might add that this is the only reason I have not purchased one, as I am looking forward to the Wessex with its .571 bore being just that tad bit rounder in the lower register than the "traditional" .562 bore of the Kings, Conns, etc.



that would be a great horn for a removable bell, swappable with an upright bell. That would also mean the bell angle would be up to the user when the front bell was used

In my experience, the biggest pain of bell front instruments is what they do to the case size. I removable bell would also aid that.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby SousaWarrior9 » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:50 pm

I'd like to see something similar to the Kanstul flying tuba, i.e. a small 3/4 or smaller travel tuba with piston valves. All of the prodoction travel tubas I've seen to date have been rotary horns and I'd like to see something similar only with pistons.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, maybe a Conn 2XJ inspired 6/4 BBb BAT? Or, at least some replica bells possibly?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby iiipopes » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:45 am

Wyvern wrote:iiipopes, Regarding the bell angle of baritone, I will get changed when next batch are manufactured

Thanks. Looking forward to it.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Casca Grossa » Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:30 pm

Bombino sized horns in BBb, CC, and F in both piston and rotary.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby sweaty » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:37 pm

A 3/4 F tuba similar to the Yamaha YFB-621. Used ones seem to sell for $4000-$6000.

Piston tubas that will accept MAW valves.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Cthuba » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:38 pm

Not sure if it was mentioned

But how bout more 3/4- 4/4 sized CC rotor tubas.

Like the

3/4 rudy
Cerveny Piggy in CC
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Mark Finley » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:57 pm

Check out the wessex Anton. Very piggy like
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Douglas » Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:47 pm

A 5 valve CC helicon.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby DouglasJB » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:10 pm

Yes, and a 5V F Helicon
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Bob Kolada » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:30 pm

I think B&S (?) make 6 valve helicons.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby DavidBalcerzak » Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:32 pm

A six valve french c tuba would be really nice, also a f contrabass trumpet
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Cthuba » Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:52 pm

I'm just surprised there's been no buzz about cloning a rudy 3/4 cc

Sure the market for them isn't good with everyone wanting a big piston cc, but I am sensing a change in the atmosphere regarding this.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:41 pm

Cthuba wrote:cloning a rudy 3/4 cc

Wessex is not really into 'cloning' currently available models, so are unlikely to make a copy of the Rudy ¾ CC while it is being made in Germany.

Yes we do sell some 'clones' which are already made by the factory, but I am encouraging them against 'cloning' - and instead we either design new, develop an existing design to make better, or resurrect great designs from the past. Sometime a combination of all three. The Excelsior BBb, Tornister tubas, Wyvern CC, Gnagey Eb, Ophicleide, Bubbie 5, Bombino Eb, Stumpy Bb, Eb sousaphone, Festivo front action euphonium, Danube rotary Eb, Anton rotary CC and new Eb Helicon are all examples where Wessex are making previously unavailable designs of instruments available.

Thanks everyone for the feedback - it is much appreciated! It will help inform us to make what people actually want...rather than just something I want to play
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Art Hovey » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:33 pm

Since you asked:

1. I'd like to see a bass trombone like this one, but with better valve linkage:
http://www.galvanizedjazz.com/tuba/Bassbone.html

2. We need Buescher-style helicons. Everyone who has tried my Buescher BBb helicon is very impressed. It has 4 pistons by Bohm & Meinl, 0.750" bore. Bloke has demonstrated that the same horn can be cut to CC with excellent results. (Scroll down to the end of http://galvanizedjazz.com/tuba.html to see a photo of mine along with Tom Holtz's Eb Buescher. Removable bells would be a very valuable improvement.

3. I'd like to see a short-bell King 2341 clone with a better piston set. The valve tubing could easily be rearranged to eliminate most of the water traps.

4. PLEASE end the embargo on valve sections! They can't be as hard to ship as entire tubas!
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Mark Finley » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:28 pm

What about a GOOD soprano trombone? All the Chinese ones are crappy toys. Kanstul makes a really good one that actually sounds like a member of the trombone family instead of a slide trumpet

Even if it cost twice as much as the crappy ones, it would still be 1/4 the price of a good one

Crappy =$200
Nice =$1600
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby largobone » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:49 pm

It'd be nice to see a single-valve bass trombone :)
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby TheGoyWonder » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:06 pm

If you want to get really creative...a sitdown version of a marching baritone. It is a really cool instrument, but backbreaking for civilian use! It would be basically a 3/4 or smaller euphonium. Would be an all-round low brass instrument especially for when euphonium is too mushy. Maybe it would supplant the anemic British baritone.

Almost the same exact thing could be done for a marching mellophone...would be a 3/4 tenor horn, with different bell. Maybe it would supplant the farty British tenor horn.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:33 pm

58mark wrote:What about a GOOD soprano trombone? All the Chinese ones are crappy toys.

This is already under development in collaboration with Torbjörn Hultmark. See this article in the British Trombone Society magazine:-
http://www.britishtrombonesociety.org/articles/soprano-trombone-project/
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Mark Finley » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:15 pm

How exciting! I look forward to seeing the results
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby sweaty » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:42 am

Vented valves. It is inexpensive and makes slurring easier.
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