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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:48 pm

Doc wrote:Jonathan, Steve, Chuck, et al...

Does the B50 gig bag fit the Kaiser? I would like to find a more substantial bag than my current bag for my B&S Kaiser (same basic dimensions as the Wessex Kaiser). My current bag is an ancient Mirafone canvas bag with no padding at all.

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The B50 gig bag is not large enough, but we have new B690 bags coming in later this year which will be custom made for the Kaiser
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Doc » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:15 pm

Wyvern wrote:
Doc wrote:Jonathan, Steve, Chuck, et al...

Does the B50 gig bag fit the Kaiser? I would like to find a more substantial bag than my current bag for my B&S Kaiser (same basic dimensions as the Wessex Kaiser). My current bag is an ancient Mirafone canvas bag with no padding at all.

Thanks,

Bill

The B50 gig bag is not large enough, but we have new B690 bags coming in later this year which will be custom made for the Kaiser



Thanks! I’ll be watching for it...
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby bloke » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:21 pm

Wyvern wrote:The B50 gig bag is not large enough, but we have new B690 bags coming in later this year which will be custom made for the Kaiser


Please consider giving them - perhaps - another inch (height) of "growing room"...just in case someone might be interested in one for an old kaiser (etc.) :D
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Kevbach25 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:38 pm

Weird for a tuba forum as well as lengthy, but...

An alto (tenor) horn with a larger bore than cornets and tapered accordingly for the larger bore. I'm thinking around .485"-.500". Cornets and baritone horns seem to be growing in size while the tenor horn is not. Why this is could be left for a separate discussion.

The main idea of this is there should be more separation between cornet and alto horn, and less between alto and baritone horns.

If we're taking this to the extreme, however...

The return of the compensating tenor horn. I've seen one online (a Boosey if memory serves, may have been a Besson) and I thought it was the coolest alto/tenor horn I had ever seen.

Specs could be .500" bore, bottom-sprung compensating valves, ~8" bell, wrapped more like the Geneva tenor horns that have a straighter leadpipe.

I'm not saying this should be done, but I think it would be a nice change in a market that, honestly, appears to be somewhat stagnant as far as design is concerned. They're all too similar!
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Innocent Bystander » Thu Dec 26, 2019 3:02 pm

So, what can we actually expect to see this year then?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:31 pm

A new alto horn is planned, and possibly compensated. I can’t see why the compensating system has to stop with the baritone - intonation is equally important for the higher brass.

For planned new releases in 2020, these include;

- Monster Eb, both front piston and top valve compensated
- 4/4 rotary BBb
- CC/BBb cimbasso
- Front piston version of the British F
- French saxhorn in Bb
- Another new euphonium
- Tenor tuba

And an exciting new 6/4 tuba unlike anything currently available possibly too :)
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Mark Finley » Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:27 pm

how many of those are going to be at the army workshop or TMEA?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:33 pm

Mark Finley wrote:how many of those are going to be at the army workshop or TMEA?

None, those are developments for 2020. What you have not seen before will be the new front piston F in both versions (17” and 15” bell improved over ITEC prototype), the new Leviathan 6/4 compensated BBb (lightweight and heavyweight versions), the British F (with improved intonation over prototype) the EP600 Sinfônica euphonium (first production), the 5-valve Kaiser and the CC Helicon.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby bort » Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:49 pm

Wyvern wrote:And an exciting new 6/4 tuba unlike anything currently available possibly too :)


A rotary 6/4 in the style of a Neptune?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby DouglasJB » Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:20 pm

Wyvern wrote:And an exciting new 6/4 tuba unlike anything currently available possibly too :)


Could this the 6/4 Eb Bat possibly?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby EmptyCase » Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:14 pm

I would like to see something that resembles a piston 6/4 BBb recording tuba. Like a Conn 36j tuba.

Or if you really want to go crazy... something that resembles a piston valve version of the monstrous king pit tuba. :mrgreen:
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Ltrain » Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:56 am

What (specifically) is going on with the Eb Sousaphone?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:00 am

Ltrain wrote:What (specifically) is going on with the Eb Sousaphone?

We are changing tapers to improve intonation
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Ltrain » Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:14 pm

Wyvern wrote:
Ltrain wrote:What (specifically) is going on with the Eb Sousaphone?

We are changing tapers to improve intonation


ETA for the redesign? / Does the Eb Helicon have the same intonation issues?

Bonus question: do you have a release date for the CC helicon?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:45 am

Ltrain wrote:
Wyvern wrote:
Ltrain wrote:What (specifically) is going on with the Eb Sousaphone?

We are changing tapers to improve intonation


ETA for the redesign? / Does the Eb Helicon have the same intonation issues?

Bonus question: do you have a release date for the CC helicon?

No, the Eb helicon is unaffected. It was through the Eb helicon the problem was found, because it played so much better, we started investigating why. I don’t have ETA for updated model at present.

The CC Helicon has now been approved by its designer, Carl Kleinsteuber, so will be out in the Summer - I would gestimate July.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby sungfw » Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:38 pm

How about a 14.2mm bore/279mm bell (.560"/11") 3+1 compensating euph, with an optional main slide tuning trigger?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:43 pm

sungfw wrote:How about a 14.2mm bore/279mm bell (.560"/11") 3+1 compensating euph, with an optional main slide tuning trigger?

Not exactly this, but there is another new euphonium due out 2020
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Doc » Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:13 pm

Jonathan, I haven’t gone through all these pages to determine if you said there might me a rotary 3/4 CC (PT3, PT4) in the works sometime. Anything like that in the works?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:53 am

Doc wrote:Jonathan, I haven’t gone through all these pages to determine if you said there might me a rotary 3/4 CC (PT3, PT4) in the works sometime. Anything like that in the works?

That is not in development at present. To be honest, rotary CC do not seem very popular, which is why I have not released anything based on my Neptune. Not saying will never happen, but not a priority.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Doc » Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:54 am

Wyvern wrote:
Doc wrote:Jonathan, I haven’t gone through all these pages to determine if you said there might me a rotary 3/4 CC (PT3, PT4) in the works sometime. Anything like that in the works?

That is not in development at present. To be honest, rotary CC do not seem very popular, which is why I have not released anything based on my Neptune. Not saying will never happen, but not a priority.

Fair enough. Thanks.
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