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New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Wyvern » Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:43 am

I am proud and delighted to give you first glimpse of Wessex biggest tuba to date - our new 6/4 'Grand' BBb tuba developed in collaboration with Chuck Nickles of the US Army Band, Europe.

The concept for the tuba was to produce a modern BBb design "Made to feel like the 6/4 CC tubas but with the extra beef of BBb" It is similar size to a Holton or York 6/4, but with the quirks of those period tubas ironed out to make what may be the ultimate American BBb BAT. Bore is 0.75" valves 1-4 and it has 20" bell - and is fitted with independent 5th valve using Wessex Z valve.

The sound of the prototype is awesome and intonation pretty good - not much slide pulling will be required with this tuba. We will be having the prototype evaluated by some noted professionals before production, so this won't be available to purchase for at least one year, but we plan to have prototype available to try at NAMM in January, US Army Workshop in February and Frankfurt Musikmesse in April 2017.

I can't yet give you price it will be sold, but aim to make it the most affordable 6/4 available.

Personally I think I need to brush up on my BBb reading to be able to play one myself :D
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Mark Finley » Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:52 am

that is sweet. Can't wait to see the roll out of this one. That looks like a tuba that is begging for a satin silver finish

also...I find it hilarious that the term BAT is so ingrained in our lexicon that we're seeing it be used in advertisements (and no, he didn't just use that here, he put the same post on facebook)
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby DouglasJB » Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:32 am

This would look great in Satin Silver
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Tabor » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:16 pm

The prototype looks cool. The bugle resembles the old top action Holton. One other modern 6/4 BBb based on that model is said to be very good.
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Stryk » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:36 pm

I think they should offer an option of getting it just the way it is. Some of us like the "antique" look. Maybe even pre-dent it in a few places to alleviate some of that "new tuba" anxiety.
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Mark » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:55 pm

Please don't use a rubber band to work the fifth valve. ;)
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby bisontuba » Sun Sep 18, 2016 2:07 pm

Is the 4th v also .750? What bore is the 5th v rotor?
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Postby tclements » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:14 pm

Yep. I'll take one. Satin Silver, gold in the bell. Tuning jigger on main slide, please.
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Mark » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:21 pm

tclements wrote:Yep. I'll take one. Satin Silver, gold in the bell. Tuning jigger on main slide, please.


Yes, that too please.
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby KiltieTuba » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:39 pm

bisontuba wrote:Is the 4th v also .750? What bore is the 5th v rotor?


If it's anything like the Holton 345, it will have larger tubing in the fourth valve, but the valve itself will only be .750".
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Postby bort » Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:57 pm

Cut it to CC?
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Wyvern » Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:06 pm

Mark wrote:Please don't use a rubber band to work the fifth valve. ;)

Don't worry - no rubber band!
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Wyvern » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:52 am

KiltieTuba wrote:
bisontuba wrote:Is the 4th v also .750? What bore is the 5th v rotor?


If it's anything like the Holton 345, it will have larger tubing in the fourth valve, but the valve itself will only be .750".


To clarify, the bore of 4th valve is 0.787" (20mm) (that includes the valve itself) and for 5th valve 0.866" (22mm).

Another dimension for you is the height is 37.5" (950mm)
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby hduong » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:56 am

Wessex is going to be at NAMM?

Just curious as to what line of horns you are going to be bringing along, especially interested in what CC Tubas and Trombones are being brought.

Hopefully I'll get out of my meetings and have enough time to stop by and check your horns out.
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Wyvern » Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:39 am

hduong wrote:Wessex is going to be at NAMM?

Just curious as to what line of horns you are going to be bringing along, especially interested in what CC Tubas and Trombones are being brought.

Hopefully I'll get out of my meetings and have enough time to stop by and check your horns out.

We will have the TC590 Wyvern CC and possibly TC491 Anton rotary CC. For trombones, the PBF555 Bb/F duel large bore tenor and PB4501 small bore Bb.

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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby arpthark » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:44 am

What is the "Z" valve? I found some info you've posted on dwerden but I am not sure I understand exactly. Just an easily-removed rotor valve?
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Wyvern » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:06 am

arpthark wrote:What is the "Z" valve? I found some info you've posted on dwerden but I am not sure I understand exactly. Just an easily-removed rotor valve?

The whole rotary valve will lift out the top for cleaning/maintenance and for absolute precise alignment. No relying on lines scribed on the back plate.
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Heliconer » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:27 pm

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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Tubajug » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:38 pm

Holy smokes I want one! That looks awesome just like that! Though satin silver would look fabulous....
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Wyvern » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:23 am

The prototype new Grand 6/4 BBb now silver plated being play tested by myself and about to leave factory for further evaluation.

In the larger space of the assembly hall it sounded even better. I found intonation as good as the Wyvern and it is easy to play with easy slotting and is no air hog

In pictures is also a new TB575 Luzern 5/4 for size comparison.
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