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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Douglas » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:22 pm

Any chance we'll see this at SERTEC?
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Wyvern » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:41 pm

Unfortunately not. Will be at US Army workshop this coming Friday and Saturday
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby bort » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:13 pm

Wait...

Broken spine... bad back... let's design a 6/4 BAT?

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're recovered enough that a tuba of this size is an option... and I applaud your work and efforts to build this tuba... but why not build something more reasonably-sized?
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby tubapix » Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:45 pm

Any news on final dimensions (bell size, weight...) and delivery date? Maybe some more eye candy pix too please.
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Wyvern » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:29 am

20" bell and 0.075" bore expanding in 4th and 5th valves.

Delivery depends on professional feedback of prototype #2. We want to make the Grand as good as possible, so getting everything right is priority over quick release.
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby tylerferris1213 » Sun May 07, 2017 3:24 pm

I can't wait to try out one of these next to my Conn Grand Orchestral! They look like they have similar proportions
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Steginkt » Wed May 17, 2017 2:44 pm

Will there be demo horns at the brick and mortar location come August or September?
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Wyvern » Wed May 17, 2017 2:46 pm

Steginkt wrote:Will there be demo horns at the brick and mortar location come August or September?

I can't say until we have completed professional trial of the new Grand. Depends if ready to go as is, or needs further development
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Wyvern » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:28 pm

At the last visit to the factory, Chuck Nickles supervised the updating of the TB692 Grand 6/4 BBb to make it better still. To quote Chuck he says;

The newest version of the 6/4 BBb looks much different than what has been shown. Rewrapped the bows, did a major redesign of the valve block (the fourth slide now has 3 usable slides) and a number of other changes.


Here are couple of pictures for your interest

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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby bububassboner » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:38 pm

Here is another photo of the horn now.
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Mark » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:02 pm

bububassboner wrote:Here is another photo of the horn now.


Do we have to play it leaning off a wall? ;)
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby bububassboner » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:12 pm

Mark wrote:
bububassboner wrote:Here is another photo of the horn now.


Do we have to play it leaning off a wall? ;)



I'm not quite sure what you mean. I'm pretty far from any wall in that photo.

Most of the work I did this last time was to bring the weight of the tuba closer to the player. A lot of big tubas tend to "lean" away from the player. This version is much easier to hold than what the factory did the first time. I signed my name on that one so it will be used as an example at the factory. I'm hoping that there will be a big row of them waiting for me the next time I go.
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Wyvern » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:18 pm

Here is that photo easier to view

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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Mark » Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:02 pm

bububassboner wrote:
Mark wrote:
bububassboner wrote:Here is another photo of the horn now.


Do we have to play it leaning off a wall? ;)



I'm not quite sure what you mean. I'm pretty far from any wall in that photo.


I was making a joke about the photo being sideways. It looks like a great tuba and I am anxious to try one.
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby GC » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:32 pm

Getting the weight toward the player is great, especially considering how many big horns seem to simply pile tubing way out front. One thing I've noticed in comparing the pictures of the big CC and BBb horns, though, is that the weight seems much lower down on the CC. The tubing and bows on the BBb seem much higher up with a definite gap lower down.
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby kmorgancraw » Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:52 pm

Any chance this horn, or others in the line up may eventually be available in a premium, handmade form like other tubas that are either "production" or "handmade?"
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby thevillagetuba » Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:45 pm

kmorgancraw wrote:Any chance this horn, or others in the line up may eventually be available in a premium, handmade form like other tubas that are either "production" or "handmade?"


The 6/4 CC is this way already, at least handmade.
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby kmorgancraw » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:36 pm

thevillagetuba wrote:
kmorgancraw wrote:Any chance this horn, or others in the line up may eventually be available in a premium, handmade form like other tubas that are either "production" or "handmade?"


The 6/4 CC is this way already, at least handmade.


Yes, that was assumed knowledge. One can't miss the dueling Wessex/Eastman 6/4 CC tuba threads over in the main forum.
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby Wyvern » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:50 am

kmorgancraw wrote:Any chance this horn, or others in the line up may eventually be available in a premium, handmade form like other tubas that are either "production" or "handmade?"

You are talking of like Meinl-Weston who offer some tubas in production, or handmade versions. That is something I need to discuss with factory...so can't say at this time
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Re: New Wessex 'Grand' 6/4 BBb tuba

Postby The Big Ben » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:02 pm

Wyvern wrote:
58mark wrote:I don't know of the procedure for satin, but if it's what I think it is, wouldn't it make more sense to get a silver tuba and have it blasted?

I am sure one of the techs can explain the process, but remember something about base coat of copper plating


It's been explained to me that the surface to be satin finished is bead blasted and then plated. It could be done at the factory if the factory had the facilities. I would think that if a buyer wanted satin finish and it could not be provided by the factory, getting a horn in raw brass then having it bead blasted and plated would be the way to go. Bead blasting would ruin the original polished silver finish and, to do the plating, a lacquer finish would need to be removed. The bead blasting would remove some of the lacquer but, in bead blasting, areas where a polished silver finish is desired (like the bow guards), the lacquer would need to be removed and masked off before bead blasting. Easier to get it in raw brass.

Or just accept a factory finish. Labor and plating ain't cheap.
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