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Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:22 pm
by Mark Finley
It will be nice to have an affordable contra that isn't a clone

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:41 am
by Teditiks
Anything new on the Eb-front Jonathan? I'd like to see a 5/4 or 6/4 if possible, and possibly a rotor Gnagey too.... :)

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:07 am
by Wyvern
Teditiks wrote:Anything new on the Eb-front Jonathan? I'd like to see a 5/4 or 6/4 if possible, and possibly a rotor Gnagey too.... :)

We have got some plans for future development on the Eb front too, but I won't say more now :)

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:45 pm
by GC
What happened to all the pictures of the Dragon?

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:04 pm
by Wyvern
GC wrote:What happened to all the pictures of the Dragon?


The photos will be up on the website very shortly

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:16 am
by pauvog1
Is Wessex an Eastman dealer?

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:01 am
by Steve Marcus
pauvog1 wrote:Is Wessex an Eastman dealer?


Wessex and Eastman are two different manufacturers.

Wessex specializes in brass instruments and accessories.

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:05 am
by pauvog1
Steve Marcus wrote:
pauvog1 wrote:Is Wessex an Eastman dealer?


Wessex and Eastman are two different manufacturers.

Wessex specializes in brass instruments and accessories.


Sorry for the confusion. Recent events made me wonder... Thank you for the clarification.

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:29 am
by Teditiks
Wyvern wrote:
Teditiks wrote:Anything new on the Eb-front Jonathan? I'd like to see a 5/4 or 6/4 if possible, and possibly a rotor Gnagey too.... :)

We have got some plans for future development on the Eb front too, but I won't say more now :)


I've got an idea for you, not that I doubt that you have several already... :) How about a 3+1 rotary, akin the ones Hirsbrunner made? Don't know if any other manufacturer went that road... Not to copy, more like the idea of setup... Like the F-tubas have their setup. Haven't seen one being played, but I for one like the idea of a 3+1 without the requirement of reaching all the way around the instrument.

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:48 pm
by Ken Crawford
Steve Marcus wrote:
pauvog1 wrote:Is Wessex an Eastman dealer?


Wessex and Eastman are two different manufacturers.


Wessex is an importer of Jinbao instruments built to Wessex specifications. Eastman is a manufacturer. Big distinction.

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:19 pm
by Mark Finley
Considering very few of wessex instruments are clones anymore, I'm not sure that statement is entirely fair. It's more like jinbao builds wessex designed instruments

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:17 pm
by hrender
Mark Finley wrote:Considering very few of wessex instruments are clones anymore, I'm not sure that statement is entirely fair. It's more like jinbao builds wessex designed instruments


This. JB appears to have moved more into the contract manufacturing space, although I don't know their business well enough to say whether it's a general trend for them or an exclusive relationship with Wessex. I do know there are a lot of contract manufacturers in China.

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 4:35 pm
by Steve Marcus
JB may still contract with other companies. But Wessex has its own area of the factory. One of the reasons is that we’re doing some things that are not done in other parts of the factory, such as hand-hammering bells and bows.

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:12 pm
by Dan Schultz
Ken Crawford wrote:
Steve Marcus wrote:
pauvog1 wrote:Is Wessex an Eastman dealer?


Wessex and Eastman are two different manufacturers.


Wessex is an importer of Jinbao instruments built to Wessex specifications. Eastman is a manufacturer. Big distinction.


Glad someone clarified that. I was about to.

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:20 pm
by Mark Finley
It's not a clarification if it's incorrect.

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:19 pm
by Wyvern
Let me clarify the relationship between Wessex and Jinbao. Wessex may have started out as a mere importer of Jinbao instruments, but over the last few years that relationship has evolved and changed out of all recognition.

Now Wessex instruments are designed in-house, usually by Chuck Nickles and we get manufactured at the Jinbao factory to Wessex specifications and under Wessex supervision and quality assurance with Jinbao as a manufacturing contractor. We have our own dedicated high-grade team that only make tubas for Wessex, our own air-conditioned quality assurance room and even a Wessex rest room - important when we are working at the factory for up to three weeks at a time and at least four times a year.

I believe the Wessex/Jinbao relationship is unique. It means we have the resources of the largest brass factory in the world at our disposal complete with department for tooling which makes it economical for us to make the huge selection there is in the Wessex range, including speciality tubas and sell them all at reasonable prices.

Quality is paramount to Wessex, and any instrument that does not pass our stringent quality assurance never leaves the factory - something else unique to Wessex, as we believe no other company checks and professionally play tests every horn in China so as to ensure quality and great playing horns every time.

We are ever striving to improve the horns further and I won’t rest until Wessex tubas are consistently the best in the world regardless of price (not just the best for the price, but the best at any price). We are making major strides, but I am fully aware there are still areas for improvement.

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:50 am
by TubaDude
What ever happened to the C helicon? Pictures of Carl with the prototype were posted several months back, but there hasn't been any talk of it since.

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:33 pm
by Wyvern
TubaDude wrote:What ever happened to the C helicon? Pictures of Carl with the prototype were posted several months back, but there hasn't been any talk of it since.

Waiting in line for mandrels to be made to go into production

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:38 pm
by TubaDude
Thank you for the update Jonathan.

Re: Wessex Tubas in China- Exciting developments!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:30 pm
by Ltrain
TubaDude wrote:Thank you for the update Jonathan.


Glad to see there are some holdouts for this cool new offering! I can't wait to see it in action... although I won't be piloting one. I actually thought I'd be the first in line for this awesome helicon since Jonathan first told me about its development over a year ago. But since then (and out of necessity) I've:

*Acquired a nice, vintage Conn BBb Sousaphone for next to nothing
*Put in a butt-ton of hours in the woodshed and played nearly 30 gigs on sousa
*Regained my pre-college BBb reading proficiency
*Became noticeably "worse" at sightreading notes on my CC horn
*Sold my Eastman CC
*Acquired a brand new Wessex Viverna BBb
*Gained $1500 from the sale (which funded an emergency)
*Sealed my fate as a "BBb player" (until I get an Eb... someday)

A lot has happened in a year!

Either way, I guess my situation is a win for Wessex! :)