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John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action)

Postby bloke » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:25 pm

For you BBb tuba quintet players (and sure: polka band, jazz band, and "lame back" issues), finally here's a medium-large bore (.689" - .728") 4-piston front-action 3/4-size tuba outfit that is really high-quality, and does ~NOT~ cost (eek!) ̶$̶9̶0̶0̶0̶.

:arrow: Instead, it will be priced somewhere in the conservative :idea: $2XXX :idea: range. :tuba:

just fwiw, It's supplied with a John Packer mouthpiece that's quite a bit similar to a Wick 4.

available through:
Mid-South Music, Inc.
14670 Highway 193
Williston, TN 38076
901-465-4739
Send me an email or message for confidential pricing.


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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby Mark Finley » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:32 pm

That's pretty sweet. I will have to drag some of the band directors I know over to the Packer booth and show it to them. I get asked all the time about small durable instruments that have four valves.
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby bloke » Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:04 pm

Mark Finley wrote:That's pretty sweet. I will have to drag some of the band directors I know over to the Packer booth and show it to them. I get asked all the time about small durable instruments that have four valves.


Thanks...!!
...and notice, please, that the bore is NOT .656", .658", or .661", and ~IS~ .689" - .728"

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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby tylerferris1213 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:23 pm

It looks like the pull on the 4th valve slide is about a quarter mile long! I bet playing low C's and B's down to the pedal range wouldn't be hard with your left hand on that slide.
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby Kirley » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:59 pm

Bloke,
Have you spent any time playing this horn? Do you have one in your possession?
Just wondering about the layout in regards to water collection. Looks like all the water in the valve loops have to come out the top after pulling slides. Or am I missing something? Just thinking about the kids.
Looks like a fun little horn, though.
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby Three Valves » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:29 am

Mark Finley wrote:That's pretty sweet. I will have to drag some of the band directors I know over to the Packer booth and show it to them. I get asked all the time about small durable instruments that have four valves.


If you get a chance to play I'd be interested in any intonation problems you encounter like you had with the similar, small Eastman.
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby Mark Finley » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:39 am

Full report coming up and less than a month!
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby Three Valves » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:11 am

I'll try it myself Friday, 02/02/2018!!
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby bloke » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:13 pm

Once I get to play one myself, my own report will probably be about as frank as (if more than) most anyone's...

...even though my name isn't Frank. :shock:
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby AndyCat » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:38 am

bloke wrote:Once I get to play one myself, my own report will probably be about as frank as (if more than) most anyone's...

...even though my name isn't Frank. :shock:


Then this is the report I'm interested in.

Actually want to try one myself, I have a Neo but would like a toy too!
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Postby MN_TimTuba » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:30 pm

bump!
Looking for one of those play-test reports...
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby bloke » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:32 pm

Candidly, this one did not impress me.
I'd like to play another (and another and another) and see if they're the same.

:arrow: It may well (??) have been something as stupid as "some of the packing material having fallen down inside the instrument"...??

It sorta played like that. The bugle is extremely similar to the Yamaha 10X/621 bugle, so it should play much better than it was playing for me.

Stay tuned.
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby Three Valves » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:04 pm

Three Valves wrote:I'll try it myself Friday, 02/02/2018!!


I tried it and just thought it suffered from Small Tuba Disease (STD)

It even played in tune once I figured out how the slides worked.

But compared to the 379B piggy-like model, the 379B piggy model is the way to go.

It's not much larger at all, but feels and sounds much better.
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby Mark Finley » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:58 pm

I'm happy to report that I just played one at the packer booth at TMEA, and it was a winner. I don't know what was wrong with the one that they sent to DC with Joe, but this one played very nice. I found one note on it (d below the staff) that I thought played out of standards, but other than that it was impressive in every way.

I still like my 3/4 379b more, but if you want pistons, this is a more affordable horn in particular with the same offering from Eastman
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby Three Valves » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:15 pm

FYI I spent only a little time playing the one with Joe and more time with the one at Balt Brass.
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby bloke » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:43 pm

Mark Finley wrote:I'm happy to report that I just played one at the packer booth at TMEA, and it was a winner. I don't know what was wrong with the one that they sent to DC with Joe, but this one played very nice. I found one note on it (d below the staff) that I thought played out of standards, but other than that it was impressive in every way.

I still like my 3/4 379b more, but if you want pistons, this is a more affordable horn in particular with the same offering from Eastman


I know I'm saying the same thing that I said before, but I'm still thinking that (re: the one at the Army conference) some packing crap must have fallen down into the bell and made its way around the corner of the bow and out of sight.

...so
HEY ROB... If that particular one gets sold, please encourage it's buyer to run water through it from the large side of the tuning slide and out the bell.
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby bloke » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:02 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6kHMhFUPCU



Let me know if you're interested, and I'll shoot you a really great price that includes shipping.
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby Three Valves » Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:52 pm

I have to say, this thing is about 1k+ less than a comparable Jupiter and it does not sound or feel 1k+ less.
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby The Big Ben » Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:10 pm

Looks like folks aren't going to have to figure out how to graft a fourth valve on a Yamaha 103 any more.
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Re: John Packer (NEW) JP179B tuba (3/4 4-piston front-action

Postby bloke » Sun Mar 11, 2018 12:16 pm

...and the primary bore is .689" with a .728" 4th valve.
NICE CASE & SHIPPING included in the pricing. :shock:

notice: PLENTY of 1st valve slide tubing for a low Eb.

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