News from Philly

Posaune2 · Post by **Posaune2** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:40 am

For those of you planning to try to hear Carol with the orchestra, she will probably not be playing the summer season at the Mann Center. She is still working out details of her school schedule, but might be playing Tchaikovsky 4 in a few weeks, and St-Sns #3 in May.

I will try to keep you all posted when things are a little more settled.

Eric Carlson

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:45 am

Seems to me when I was at an age when I was still in the hunt (19-20) there was another phenom who won a job at 18: Sumner Erickson. I had the same feelings as Steve: total awe. It is a beautiful thing when someone shows artistry at that age. Boogles the mind. But then again, violinists have been doing it for centuries, maybe we are starting to catch up. I remember when the Holy Grail of undergrad recitals was the Vaughn-Williams, now high school kids do it with ease, and don't get me started on "Encounters". I remember listening in disbelief to Roger Bobo play it. Now, piece of cake for most college people. My, how things change in 25 years.

Chuck'who doesn't consider 45 as old on any count, but certainly has felt his age with this story"Jackson

JHardisk · Post by **JHardisk** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:51 pm

This is more than overdue.. Congratulations to Carol! I heard her play when she was just finishing high school at Mendez. She sounded just as fantastic as she does now. Hard work pays off, and she exemplifies that.

A side note: Philly has a history of hiring younger players in its auditions. The bass trombone player, Blair Bollinger was just out of Curtis when he won his job. And if I'm not mistaken, former trumpet player and now principal in Chicago, Chris Martin was 21 or so when he won his job with philly.

Hearing so much about Philly makes me miss home... I can't wait for a return visit to hear the orchestra with its new tubist!

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:57 pm

Joe Baker wrote:Hey, now, Rick -- you stick to nagging pedantism! Flirtation with college-aged low-brass cuties is MY racket!!
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Joe Baker, who knows where his real strengths lie...

Flirtation? I think you are projecting!

Rick "who remembers talking about musicality, not being cute, and who has never seen Carol Jansch in any case" Denney

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:00 pm

Barney wrote:It includes a picture of Carol with a PT-6P

Okay, NOW I can say she's a cutie. But I'm still not flirting. In the words of my 21-year-old niece, that would be "gross".

Rick "disgusting, perhaps, but not gross" Denney

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:05 pm

Posaune2 wrote:I will try to keep you all posted when things are a little more settled.

Thank you.

Rick "who is doing a project in Philly that presents opportunities" Denney

Joe Baker · Post by **Joe Baker** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:32 pm

Rick Denney wrote:Flirtation? I think you are projecting!

Hmmm.... Could be.

Okay, I've tucked in my shirt; but what does my beer-belly have to do with flirting, anyway?
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Joe Baker, who is only playfully flirtatious, and is so with women and girls of all ages.

Steve Marcus · Post by **Steve Marcus** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:01 pm

JHardisk wrote:This is more than overdue.. Congratulations to Carol! I heard her play when she was just finishing high school at Mendez. She sounded just as fantastic as she does now. Hard work pays off, and she exemplifies that.

Ditto. I sat next to Carol in a tuba-euph ensemble at Interlochen in the summer of 2003. Indeed she had wonderful tuba tone, great sense of rhythm, remarkable breath control--just an easy, relaxed, beautiful sound.

Hearing so much about Philly makes me miss home... I can't wait for a return visit to hear the orchestra with its new tubist!

As one who was born and raised in Philly, I now have a new excuse to come home and visit my family. Besides, I haven't heard the orchestra live since they moved to the Kimmel Center from the Academy of Music.

Steve Marcus · Post by **Steve Marcus** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:38 pm

One of my co-workers asked me about the newspaper article about Carol.

I responded with an unintended pun,

"Yeah, the whole tuba world is buzzing."

anonymous4 · Post by **anonymous4** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:42 am

Steve Marcus wrote:"Yeah, the whole tuba world is buzzing."

Yes, it would seem that Jantsch-mania is sweeping across America. When are we going to the see the MTV special "Carol Jantsch: Behind the Music"?

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:40 am

anonymous4 wrote:Yes, it would seem that Jantsch-mania is sweeping across America. When are we going to the see the MTV special "Carol Jantsch: Behind the Music"?

And when is K-Fed going to start bothering her?

Perhaps she will need these guys as body guards to put him in his place.

Marty "who was blown away by her Khachaturian sample, especially the low register" Neilan

MaryAnn · Post by **MaryAnn** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:50 pm

Interesting, fabulous, and congrats to Carol! Here at work they seem to have disabled the ability to listen to these kinds of files (always returns an error, now) so I'll have to wait for this weekend and hope my home internet doesn't time out during the download, so I can listen. Or maybe someone can email an mp3 to me.

I wonder....might this be at least a minor shot in the arm for orchestras and classical music? Maybe get the attention of a few who otherwise wouldn't ever have thought about going to hear the symphony? Or playing an instrument?

I also wonder how long it will be before tuba is a "sissy girl instrument" like flute!!! And all the heavy guys with fat cheeks will have to play something else, like violin, because of all the grade school girls who will take up tuba now.

MA

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:26 pm

MaryAnn wrote:And all the heavy guys with fat cheeks will have to play something else, like violin, because of all the grade school girls who will take up tuba now.

MA

I never would have taken up the tuba if I thought I wasn't going to meet cute babes!

louish_006 · Post by **louish_006** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:38 pm

First of all, congrats to Carol. I think this is awesome and great and just gives me more motivation to practice. I'm just 19 and starting my bachelors in Quebec city and practice my excerpts at least 2 hours a day. This just makes me want to practice more and more, but hey....gotta have some kind of life. But anyways, with my small 5 hours a day of concentrated practice, I just hope that one day I'll have the chance to get an orchestral job. Finally, congrats to Carol for that awesome breakthrough. Hope this audition might inspire some people.

pulseczar · Post by **pulseczar** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:12 pm

I think this intimidates more than inspires, but wow. Carol's amazing. Huge congrats to her. I definitely wanna go down to Philly and see her play one day now.

BassBlatt · Post by **BassBlatt** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:29 pm

From what I've heard - she sounds great on solos. Has anyone heard her play orchestral exerpts? Cause - well - she did win an orchestral job.

Just wondering.

BassBlatt · Post by **BassBlatt** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:58 pm

Umm - no.

Gator · Post by **Gator** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:18 am

mgilbert wrote:
BassBlatt wrote:From what I've heard - she sounds great on solos. Has anyone heard her play orchestral exerpts? Cause - well - she did win an orchestral job.

Just wondering.
I felt a seismic disturbance in GA at approximately the same time she was playing Fountains for the audition committee, does that count?

Fountains was not on the list this time. (which is actually a good idea).

Gator · Post by **Gator** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:02 am

Doc wrote:Fountains is a real ball-buster to really do it right. It separates the men from the boys...and...uh... the women from the girls. I'm confident Carol would nail the hell out of it.

Doc

Yes...Fountains is a real ball-buster BUT it is a real POS! You play for about one minute, there is very little good music to play and it is a waste of valuable time for the committee. Even when it performed in the orchestra, with a real pipe organ, the tuba is seldom heard. IMO...not a good piece to ask on an audition as there are many other pieces that are more revealing of a musical talent. Fountains may be impressive to the trombonist on the committee but I'm sure the piece leaves the trumpet horn and non-brass committee members (in the context of audition) scratching their heads.

Gator · Post by **Gator** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:32 am

Doc wrote:I would expect it be used for the sightreading or section playing portion of the audition. And, of course, they may want to just see how well you bust your balls. Regardless, you had better have brass balls that drag the ground.

Doc

Sightreading..maybe but not realistic. Section playing would be a no.

Generally, all the section pieces are rehearsed by the trombone section BEFORE the audition. Most orchestra musicians do not have the time to go through non-standard, fringe repertoire before the audition and rehearsing Fountains is time consuming. Bruckner, Tchaikovsky and Mahler are great to ask and worth the valuable time that is available. Also keep in mind, the parts to Fountains are rental, not available and need permission from the publisher to be used.

The bass trombone has much of this with the tuba but the tenors have very little and it is not a difficult piece for them. BUT if I were a bass trombonist and my new music director (who did not hire me) would ask me to play this in a final round with tuba applicants, I would be messing in my pants!

Yes...it is difficult but way too much emphasis is placed upon this piece by many tubist in the USA. Many tuba players in major symphony orchestras may have only one or two chances to play this in their entire carreer.

An impressive piece for the stupid, a waste of time for others.

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