Using a non playing stand with Silent Brass

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Using a non playing stand with Silent Brass

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Are any of the current non playing stands out there stable enough to hold a tuba with a Silent Brass still in the bell? If so which ones? Are there any that I should avoid using this way?
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The newer and heavier K&M stands can do that.

But I have to advise strongly against letting the the Silent Brass sit in the bell for any extended period.

The rubber foam seal of the SB is not sulphur free. It etches the bell flare silvering or metal. If ever so slightly, then noticeably.

When I used the SB, then for my then only upright tuba, so I let it sit in the bell, sometimes for days, as I did other parts of my practising schedule on my other basses.

I kept the K&M stand and skipped the SB off to a poor student at a rock bottom price.

I only have noticed the etching effect with the tuba SB, not with the euph ditto.

For tuba I prefer DW and H&B practice mutes, which easily can be turned into compatibility with the SB master electronic part.

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Re: Using a non playing stand with Silent Brass

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Tubaryan12 wrote:Are any of the current non playing stands out there stable enough to hold a tuba with a Silent Brass still in the bell? If so which ones? Are there any that I should avoid using this way?
The new K&M tuba stand I received last week does an acceptable job supporting a Yamaha Silent Brass mute and 5/4 Willson CC. Be careful when ordering, as there are different sizes on the market.

The problem will be maintaining an ergonomically correct posture while stooping to lower the horn into the stand. I recommend unplugging the microphone lead wire, if the microphone was used.
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A question i have, is if the BBC tuba stands can hold a four-quarter tuba, and silent brass.
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Albertibass wrote:A question i have, is if the BBC tuba stands can hold a four-quarter tuba, and silent brass.
I would rather worry whether the thin metal of the St. P. will hold up to the pressure, which the holding arms of the stand will exercise, when the insertion of a Silent Brass will put the center of gravity considerably higher up.

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oo? About how much does silent brass for tuba wiegh?
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I cannot tell you the weight, as I practically gave mine away.

But where other brands of practise mutes are manageable without problems, then the mentioning of "ergonomics" by a previous poster is most relevant, when a SB is mounted. Any tuba will become extremely top-heavy and hence very tough to handle.

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