Set And Forget?

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:20 pm

Several manufacturers have been down that road already, both for Euphoniums and Tubas. Bottom line: whatever you do to play in tune (with yourself, or with others) is fine.

pulseczar · Post by **pulseczar** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:36 pm

here's a thread with very extensive discussion.

viewtopic.php?t=4176&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:08 pm

I've posted it elsewhere, and I'll post it here. On a Conn sousaphone, pull 3 and leave it so that 23 is in tune. You can then have your tech make the top loop of 1 into a pullable slide. It lays exactly where your left hand will be holding it, whether sitting, standing or marching. Then you can pull 1 @3/4 of an inch for 12, @1 1/2 inches for 1-3, and shoot anybody who would write a B natural for anything! If it's in good shape, you'll get a perfect false pedal low Eb open, D 2, Db 1 and if you're really good, C 12 or 3 and if you're in the league with the Chief, true pedal Bb open. I can only do down to the Db 1 consistently.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:41 pm

bloke wrote:All hinges on one's definition of "in tune" and the particular tuba with which one is blessed

... and the A the oboe has picked for this half and the type of intonation the brass use and...

trseaman · Post by **trseaman** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:55 pm

What I like are the guys that insist that you must pull your slides while performing... But if you watch them during a concert, they don't even touch the slides! What's that all about??? My old 2341 seems to be pretty consistant thru-out and I remember someone else saying the same about theirs...

Tim

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:10 pm

There's being in tune with yourself, and more importantly, being in tune with others... (along with Perfect, Equal, Pythagorean, and Just temprements)

What you soon find is that what you most need is to listen, and the perfect tuba is the one that you can adjust on the fly while playing!

tubatooter1940 · Post by **tubatooter1940** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:13 pm

Besides the main tuning slide on my old Eb King the rest are set and forget because I seldom have enough warning about what tune is next or what key it may be in to pull any slide but the main one. If I can't lip it in then I try not to hit certain notes super loud becaude the ones that give me the most problems don't slot that well either.
Dennis Gray
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GC · Post by GC » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:21 pm

. . . everything I read said low brass were impossible to play in tune unless compensated. Lipping notes was said to be impossible (I have not found that to be the case) . . .

I'm thrown by the unbelievable ignorance of someone who would tell anyone, much less in print, that low brass is not lippable. I wonder what other stupidities these folks have been spreading?

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:58 pm

GC wrote:the unbelievable ignorance of someone who would tell anyone, much less in print, that low brass is not lippable. I wonder what other stupidities these folks have been spreading?

Obviously a Flute tutor...

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:27 pm

Leisesturm wrote:Wow. So still there is no consensus.

Isn't it great that tubas are versatile enough to accomodate all sorts of playing methods and styles!