$400 lesson

[iiipopes]

Then again, some people really don't want to be bothered, so they raise their price to a point they actually lower demand accordingly to no more than they want to take on.

[Dennis K.]

$150/ hour is not at all unreasonable considering the cost of living in NYC. You could spend 1/3 of that parking (unless you wish to lug your tuba many, many blocks), another $30 for lunch (2 dogs and a soda from street vendors will run you $10), $15-20 in tolls getting into and out of the city. Heck, there's $100 and you haven't met the guy yet.

Different scenario - You've paid $100 to apply to Julliard. You've bought the plane ticket and hotel room in Manhattan. You are about to invest $30,000/year in school. It is understood that people who have lessons with the teacher beforehand have a better acceptance rate and get better financial aid packages than the 50 other players at the open cattle call auditions. How much is that instrument you are playing worth????

$150 is small change.

Would I pay that for a lesson w/ the 2nd trombonist of the Titipu Town Band? Of course not! Should some high school schmuck playing a fibreglass sousaphone pay that for a lesson on their band music? Of course not!
How 'bout someone that has been advancing in professional auditions?

$150 is small change.

[Mark]

For $400, you could get 10 lessons from me. If I teach a two hour lesson, the rate goes up to $60.

Dave "who doesn't think his time is worth a dollar a minute" Zerkel

Seriously, you are under-charging.

[Tubadork]

For $400, you could get 10 lessons from me. If I teach a two hour lesson, the rate goes up to $60.

Dave "who doesn't think his time is worth a dollar a minute" Zerkel

Seriously, you are under-charging.

SSSSHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! Quiet!
we have a good thing going on down here,

I've also been lucky enough to have some lessons with Dave and he's a great teacher.
Bill "who would be kinda bummed if Dave's rates went up, but would still go out to Athens as much as I could/ afford" Pritchard

[Scott C]

I'm not so sure that $400 is reasonable, but for the right person, a $200 lesson might be just the right wake up call. I got myself a lesson with a big name west coast teacher and he pulled no punches. He called me on my sh%* right away. I went away and worked my butt off. He had really great things to say that affect my playing every day. Was it worth it... You bet!!! I wasn't getting what I needed from my university teacher or others who "knew" me. If it's a monetary sacrifice that's needed, so be it.

[Dennis K.]

I also have this new technique for rearranging the molecules of any brass instrument by plugging it into a modified battery charger. Absolutely amazing.
email me off list some time, maybe a hang,
ron

If you also freeze the horn, then give it a name from some long lost religion (perhaps call it the 'Thor Treatment), then get someone to say "It makes my sound so much darker"(whether it does or not), you may be able to go up to $600.

[clagar777]

What do the other major orchestral tuba players charge for lessons? Would you be ok with paying Carol Jantsch the same price that you would pay Gene Pokorny for a lesson?

[MartyNeilan]

Here's a bargain tip for some folks in NJ, NYC, CT, NY, PA area. Pasquale (Pat) Landolfi from New Jersey Symphony. He's 74 now and studied with Jacobs and I think Lavotny. He has some interesting breathing and playing techniques, and musical as a MoFo. Don't go to him to learn Flight of the Bumble Bee. But if you want to learn how to turn phrases...

Ditto!! Pat Landolfi is one of those "best kept secrets" but he is the man! (I can't believe he is 74 already.)

[brianf]

Would you be ok with paying Carol Jantsch the same price that you would pay Gene Pokorny for a lesson?

If I had to choose between Carol and Gene? Young 20 year old girl or bald old guy?

Ouch!
Gene, now that it's on Tubenet, it's official - you're an old bald guy! Just like one of your heros, Curley of Howard-Fine-Howard fame.

When lurking Tubenet, remember you saw it here!

[Northern]

The old, bald guy = A "victim of soicumstances."

[brianf]

[/quote]The old, bald guy = A "victim of soicumstances."

Hey Gene - How is it checking Tubenet first thing in the morning and finding out that you're old?

Do you resemble that remark?

[Steve Marcus]

Truthfully, Carol probably has a great perspective, from which we could all learn something...She certainly has what it takes as a player. If she proves to have similar skills as a teacher, she'll be a real force with which to be reckoned.

Carol has experience as a teacher/counselor at Interlochen.

Plus, she is old enough to drink beer - just not old enough to buy it.

Carol turned 21 shortly after winning the position in Philadelphia. That satisfies even Pennsylvania's antiquated Blue Laws.

[DBCooper]

Carol turned 21 shortly after winning the position in Philadelphia. That satisfies even Pennsylvania's antiquated Blue Laws.

Yes, but she'll still have to buy it from a "State Store"...

[DBCooper]

Maybe this explains the homogenized orchestral sound in America.

As a well adjusted, straight adult tuba player I would hope that we would celebrate diversity in whatever form it takes.

[Steve Marcus]

It would be refreshing to get a woman's viewpoint.

A woman doesn't necessarily bring anything different to the interpretation of instrumental music than a man does simply on the basis of gender.

But in playing the tuba, a woman has some of the same respiratory challenges as a short, middle aged male tuba player.

With all due respect to the teachings of A.J. and the authors of The Breathing Gym, I would enjoy learning from Carol how she developed such efficiency in her breathing technique. It ain't all because she plays Ultimate Frisbee!

From an article by Joseph Dalton in the 8/10/06 issue of the Albany Times Union:

SPAC's addition of large video screens on the sides of the stage has dramatically, if silently, changed the concert experience...Because the camera operators are keenly aware of what's happening in the score, we're treated to close ups of individual players in action. For example, it was marvelous to see new principal tuba Carol Jantsch -- on her debut night as an orchestra member -- take in and expel huge breaths during the Shostakovich [Sym. #15].

[MartyNeilan]

As a well adjusted, gay adult tuba player...

As a well adjusted, straight adult tuba player...

Well adjusted??? tuba player??????
Who are any of you trying to kid!

[DBCooper]

As a well adjusted, gay adult tuba player...

As a well adjusted, straight adult tuba player...

Well adjusted??? tuba player??????
Who are any of you trying to kid!

My tuba is fully adjustable, thank you!

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[MaryAnn]

Back to Phil Myers. I went to a master class of his at a horn workshop a few years ago. One of the kids (college students) who got up to play couldn't keep a steady tempo in a passage. Phil demonstrated playing just straight eighth notes on a single pitch, metronomically, and told the kid to do that. The kid couldn't do it, couldn't even come close. Like, here the kid was playing some fancy concerto for Phil Myers and couldn't even play straight eighth notes on a single pitch and hold the rhythm. I think it was an eye-opener for both the kid AND the kid's teacher.

Phil demonstrated other things that I've only seen high level pros able to do on the horn, with ease. Lower level pros either can't do these things or have difficulty doing them, or don't even attempt them. I imagine many kids get all the way through school and don't even know these techniques exist, much less are able to do them. So....if you were a truly talented, truly ambitious horn player, I think it would be worth that $400 just to find out what you couldn't do. That would be the point of the lesson. Then you could go home and practice for however long it took you to learn all that stuff, and then you could go back for another dose of what you couldn't do. What you hear on CD's is someone playing music that is *easy* for them....and what they can do that is *so* far beyond the techniques on the page, is amazing.

As far as musical interpretation....I think you actually can get basic ideas off of CD's if you have the ears to listen. Maybe I think that because I'm just way backwards in musicality and most of it passes me by, or maybe not. I do know that when I go to a new teacher and they ignore the technical problems I have and start telling me how to turn a phrase, that I feel cheated; because if I don't have the technique to turn a phrase a certain way, their talking about it isn't going to make any difference in the end result. Golf swings don't fix on their own by just thinking about where you want the ball to go. (Or if they do, you don't need no stinking lessons.)

MA

[Mark]

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