Thanks, Roger Lewis

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:32 pm

TubaRay wrote:"Emily Post of TubeNet"

Wow!
Doc certainly has his talents.

Well, maybe the Emile Post of TubeNet...

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:00 pm

tofu wrote: If I walk into a Chevy dealer and the Corvette expert isn't in I still expect to take one out for a test drive.

The one time my stepfather went into a GM dealership to check out a Saturn wagon (early 90's) the salespeople did everything they could to pull him across the hall and into a new corvette. I guess they figured a middle aged balding man was the primo target for a vette. So, he went and bought an AWD Subaru wagon instead and loved it.

I have personally not had a lot of dealings with Roger, but the few times I talked to or emailed him he went out of his way to be helpful.
Same goes for Matt W, Dave F, Lee S (who also came to rescue me from the most dangerous part of Atlanta one time), and Charlie back when he was at BW. In fact, truth be told, I think Joe Bloke might even be a little nicer than he lets on

TubaRay · Post by **TubaRay** » Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:41 pm

MartyNeilan wrote: In fact, truth be told, I think Joe Bloke might even be a little nicer than he lets on

I think we should be more careful about starting vicious rumors, especially concerning other TubeNet members. I suspect Bloke will weigh in on this very soon.

tubeast · Post by **tubeast** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:16 pm

This may be slightly off-topic, but the kind words of praise directed at Mr. Lewis remind me of our relationship to salespeople at work (hydraulic components are what these are trying to sell us).

More than once we experienced the following:
"Old School" salespersons show up every couple of weeks and ask if thereÂ´s anything new weÂ´re up to or presenting stuff they recently added to their portfolio.
Doing this to the point when we wondered if these people didnÂ´t have anything else to do. On the other hand, these got that new diagram of a valve block just on a side note, resulting in quite some business. If there is a technical question / problem, they either solve it themselves or hook you up with the engineering department in a conference call.

One day weÂ´d receive a personal, friendly letter by these people, announcing their retirement and telling us who their successor was to be.
Never heard of that new guy ever since. No visits. No eMail, except if called for BY US. These people seem to be happy with the products they already sell on a regular basis.
I tend to forget their names.

Those old-fashioned guys still are around, and some (few) new guys do old-fashioned travelling and shaking hands.

Guess whoÂ´s getting the (sometimes hand-drafted) new hydraulic features weÂ´d like to implement in the future ?

jacobg · Post by **jacobg** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:20 am

Our performance in that WWBW was the most exciting thing that ever happened there. Yeah, during the 30 seconds they let us play they lost some business selling Chinese guitars and jazz play-along records to middle school students, but they were reminded (and they needed reminding) that musicians are unpredictable creative artists, not just customers waiting to be milked for cash and loaded up with Guitar Center junk. That store had a crusty corperate vibe that needed busting. Their reaction to us was proof.

Randy Beschorner · Post by **Randy Beschorner** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:12 pm

they were reminded (and they needed reminding) that musicians are unpredictable creative artists

It must be my Midwest myopia. I understand the unpredictable part of your lesson to Woodwind and Brasswind. What was creative or artistic about it?

Randy "who thinks that Steve Martin did Wild and Crazy Guys a long time ago and much better" Beschorner

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:37 pm

Hey guys, let it go! I'm betting that the "corporate" attitude is a reaction to lots of stuff having walked off when people are distracted. And I'm betting that in Manhatten everything would be under lock and key, so it would be less of a problem. And I'm betting that everybody needs to lighten up, too. It was a cool idea that didn't work in a tuba stronghold. Yeah, that sucks on both ends.

So get over it.

Steve Inman · Post by **Steve Inman** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:50 pm

jacobg wrote:Our performance in that WWBW was the most exciting thing that ever happened there. Yeah, during the 30 seconds they let us play they lost some business selling Chinese guitars and jazz play-along records to middle school students, but they were reminded (and they needed reminding) that musicians are unpredictable creative artists, not just customers waiting to be milked for cash and loaded up with Guitar Center junk. That store had a crusty corperate vibe that needed busting. Their reaction to us was proof.

Absolutely amazing perspective.

Your post provides all the proof I need -- but not regarding anything you claim -- sorry.

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:24 pm

Dave M wrote:So, you guys are, what, music's answer to Earth First! ?
How has WWBW changed, now that their crusty corperate [sic] vibe is busted?

Yup.

As I wrote recently (now in the bit bucket), if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

Whatever our hero thought he was accomplishing, he didn't. Frankly, he can't even make it sound like a good idea in retrospect. Maybe it's time to reconsider his objectives and strategies.

The guy buying the Guitar Center crap had as much right to be there as anyone else. In fact, more. He was buying something.

Rick "thinking the crusty corporate vibe is bringing lots of folks good prices on great instruments, which is the point of being a store, after all" Denney

195/1291 · Post by **195/1291** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:43 am

Roger is the person you want to deal with, Hands down,

Thanks, Roger Lewis

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