Finally joining the club

Donn · Post by **Donn** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:57 pm

iiipopes wrote:I respectfully disagree:
1) We do not speak Middle English anymore.

But we never stopped saying "got". You got a problem with that?

2) It is still a conflagration of verbs, as the phrase is used in the present tense instead of as a proper reference to past pluperfect tense.

Past pluperfect is going far too far.

In the example from the musical, the sense really was present perfect, and it was perfectly presentable.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:11 pm

Is someone going to take a bite out of somebody's ear?

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:08 pm

harold wrote:
Huh? Whatever this is a reference to has vacated my diminishing brain.
To quote Rick Denney:

A Holton that has been Oberlohed achieves a life far grander than its humble beginnings. Holtons are blue-collar. Dan dresses them up in a tux and teaches them to say "the rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain."
Sorry about such an obtuse reference.

I must have just watched My Fair Lady before making that statement.

Rick "who can't even remember his own schtick" Denney

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:10 pm

iiipopes wrote:I saw Sound of Music when it first came out. Being 3 or 4, it made a great impression on me. I still find myself analyzing speech patterns, grammer and syntax. My pet peeve is the corruption of the past tense of the verb get with the present tense of the verb have to make a nonsensical compound verb. "You've got..." is probably the most corrupt conflagration of verbs in the English language, as the verb have and its variants of person and tense is an intransitive verb indicating a state of being, where the verb get and its tenses is a transient, or active verb meaning to acquire, understand, or a few other actions. So, the phrase, "You've got..." is as inconsistent as night and day, oil and water, or running verses standing still, and therefore cannot be considered anything but a vulgar intensive along the same lines as the f word.

It's "grammar".

Rick "FYI" Denney

Donn · Post by **Donn** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:03 pm

windshieldbug wrote:Is someone going to take a bite out of somebody's ear?

Go ahead - make my day!

TubaRay · Post by **TubaRay** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:24 pm

Rick Denney wrote:It's "grammar".
Rick "FYI" Denney

Would you be speaking of Kelsey?

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:43 pm

Donn wrote:

"Would someone from the secret service please pre-chew another bite for me?"

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:57 pm

I apologize for the spelling error that I did not catch in typing grammar.

In the private context of negotiation, knowing when not to criticize is part of discretion, which is the better part of valor. I'd rather have the inexpensive deal than be correct in my grammar and syntax, losing the deal.

But, thank you Sean, after I deal with it, I can vent it here!

As far as the USA and the UK: two great countries separated by a common language.

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:44 pm

iiipopes wrote:I apologize for the spelling error that I did not catch in typing grammar.

That was not the point of my posting. There was no need to apologize for the mistake, which is small potato(e)s in the context of the original rant.

The first rule of Internet Forum grammar correction: In correcting grammar or spelling, the poster will inevitably exhibit an even more egregious error.

It's only reasonable for people of good will (and good humor) to point these errors out. That's the only way to salvage some entertainment value out of a grammar rant.

Rick "who suffers silently at the loss of lucid language" Denney

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:23 pm

Yes, thank you. But when it does regard good English grammar and syntax, the very vehicle of transmission of all of our accumulated Western Civilization, and the loss of such, as Dylan Thomas said, and this is one subject that we can rant about:
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:13 pm

I always thought it was "Rage Against the Machine"...

tubatooter1940 · Post by **tubatooter1940** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:24 pm

Doc,
The blonde on the right was smokin'. She can dip her socks in my coffee anytime.
toots

Daniel C. Oberloh · Post by **Daniel C. Oberloh** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:50 am

Love the tuba the food the beer and definitely the chicks.

What the hell is wrong with you girls talking about grammar and syntax. Okay you grammar dorks, single file, go back to TUBENET home room, get your heads on straight, and study up on what we are suppose to be discussing here! Tuba, beer, food and .... well, you know.

Now, where is that guy with the glass tuba bell full of beer? For gods sake, some one help me out here!

Daniel C. Oberloh
Oberloh Woodwind and Brass Works

Donn · Post by **Donn** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:16 pm

Daniel C. Oberloh wrote:study up on what we are suppose to be discussing here! Tuba, beer, food and ....

OK, now, are you saying -- it wasn't food?

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:53 pm

Donn wrote:

"Now do I look like Mike Tyson?"

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:12 pm

Daniel C. Oberloh wrote:Now, where is that guy with the glass tuba bell full of beer? For gods sake, some one help me out here!

Damn! He beat me to it!

(Where's the emoticon of the smiley raising a beer mug?)

DBCooper · Post by **DBCooper** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:20 pm

windshieldbug wrote:
Donn wrote:
"Now do I look like Mike Tyson?"

No, but at least you've lost that lisp!

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:54 pm

Touche'