Odd Meter Studies

UTTuba_09 · Post by **UTTuba_09** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:00 pm

Besides the Otto Mainz, are there any other etude/study books that really emphasize odd/mix meter?

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:19 pm

Not really a study, but Jager's 'Third Suite' is sort of fun to play with a band.

dwaskew · Post by **dwaskew** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:03 pm

Shifting Meter Studies, by Allen Ostrander
24 Etudes sur le Rythme et le Detache, by Patrice Sciortino has some
22 Rhythmic Instrumental Sightreading Exercises, by Francois Rieunier
and
Quinze Etudes de Rythme by Marcel Bitsch (Bass trombone version for tubists)

the last three are all Leduc publications. Can't find my copy of the Ostrander right now, so not sure of publisher.

have fun,

D. AsKew

joshwirt · Post by **joshwirt** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:07 pm

I'm pretty sure the Ostrander is a Robert King Publication. I'll have to look at my copy when I get home.

Thomas Maurice Booth · Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:46 pm

For my aural skills class we have to have a rhythm book. I have used the various examples from that and incorporated them into my practicing. Even if it is just on one note or a scale, just seeing the meters/ rhythms in front of you while playing helps a great deal.

JB · Post by JB » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:58 pm

joshwirt wrote:I'm pretty sure the Ostrander is a Robert King Publication. I'll have to look at my copy when I get home.

Yes, it is RK.

Ace · Post by **Ace** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:03 pm

Back in the 50's when I was studying with some Hollywood studio musicians, the popular book on meter studies was Advanced Sight Reading and Applied Solfegge, vol. 2, by Gaston Dufresne. Published by New Sounds in Modern Music, 111 West 48th Street, New York, NY

This fine book is probably no longer in print, but I have seen a copy or two in some of the used-music bins in the area.

tubafatness · Post by **tubafatness** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:19 pm

I don't know how hard it is to find, but the second book in the Blahzevich series has some pretty goofy time signatures. It may not be the best sounding material, but it definitely helps.

markaustinhowle · Post by **markaustinhowle** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:36 pm

Ed Sueta wrote a great book entitled "Rhythm Spectrum". It is a progression of 67 Rhythm charts that start with the simplest rhythms and gradually increase in difficulty to every imaginable mixed meter and difficult rhythm. The only meter not included that I have found in the orchestral rep is 5 1/2 16 time, (sensamya!) Each line in the charts contains 8 measures so they can be played using the 8 degrees of the diatonic scale.

It is published my Macie Publishing Company and contains a really good list of recommended sources in the back of the book. Mr. Sueta is a great teacher of rhythm and has researched the subject very thoroughly. It is without a doubt the best source for teaching rhythm I have ever found.

markaustinhowle · Post by **markaustinhowle** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:54 pm

I donâ€™t know what difficulty level you are interested in studying, but there is also a really good sight reading book that has several mixed meter â€œetudesâ€

The Impaler · Post by **The Impaler** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:26 pm

Check out Louis Bellson's Odd-meter rhythm studies. Designed for drummers, but incredibly applicable to tubists as well. I got mine through Amazon. Both of Bellson's rhythm books are wonderful. I use mine for myself and my students, no matter what their skill level.

jhfloyd · Post by **jhfloyd** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:16 pm

Hi, bass trombone lurker...

aside from the many other plusses to his works, the compositions of Tommy Pederson, written for bass trombone, i think would create a wonderful musical, and technical challenge to any tuba player. Even the bass works go pretty high (G and A above the staff, you guys call that high?) so it may be more fitting for an F or Eb tuba.

Just get anything by him for bass bone, and you will be musically satisfied, technically satisfied, and (sticking to the thread) his mixed meter works will definitely give you a hard time.

Stefan Kac · Post by **Stefan Kac** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:09 am

Check out Trumpet Studies in Contemporary Music by Robert Nagel. Not exclusively concerned with odd meters, but there are some in there.