Tuba got run over by a Huyndai

sffz · Post by **sffz** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:59 am

Not 'over' but pretty close. To make a long story short (and less painful) I backed into my horn (PT4P) in it's gig bag. My leadpipe is smashed, bell very crunched and maybe some 4th valve damage (could be the casing, or just the valve stem - I can't tell.) I am not sure what can be repaired or what will need to be replaced.

Can anyone tell me what repair costs I might be facing? I just want to prepare for the blow when I take it to my repair guy. I am thinking $1000-$1200 if the bell and leadpipe must be replaced.

Needless to say I am distraught and feel amazingly stupid and irresponsible. I do not have this kind of money. My horn is insured through my renters insurance, but I am not sure it covers owner stupidity.

Any/all informed opinions are appreciated.

Randy

*** Thanks to Charlie Violet for loaning me a horn to play my quintet gig today. You are a very kind man.***

Dean · Post by **Dean** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:23 am

I ran over my Aunt and my Grandmother once, so it could be worse!

Granted, I was 2 years old--never leave a toddler unattended in a vehicle with the keys in the ignition!

Tubaryan12 · Post by **Tubaryan12** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:55 am

Dean wrote:I ran over my Aunt and my Grandmother once, so it could be worse!

Granted, I was 2 years old--never leave a toddler unattended in a vehicle with the keys in the ignition!

Not to mention the story you hear almost every year about someone running over their baby that was left in the car seat outside of the car.

MikeMason · Post by **MikeMason** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:55 am

If you're not covered by insurance and are truly broke, I bet 3-4 hundred bucks could straighten out your tuba and maybe buy a new leadpipe.Past dents that have been removed don't scare me anymore.Both of my horns show signs of major past abuse and both sound great.Past damage does,of course,adversely affect the resale value of a horn.Good luck,but don't assume perfection is the only viable route in your situation.

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:45 pm

Without detailed pictures, it's impossible to say. But if the damage is bad enough, $1500 may well be on the "light" side.

Steve Inman · Post by **Steve Inman** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:13 pm

Doc wrote:
sffz wrote:Tuba got run over by a Huyndai
Sang to the melody of "Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer."

Doc

That's rather what I thought:

" .... coming home from our house Christmas eve ...."

Sorry to hear of your misfortune,

ljdalen · Post by **ljdalen** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:30 pm

Don't want to be a stick in the mud, but being a licensed insurance agent and in the industry for more than 20 years has brought much thought to how big the gap in coverage can be. You may find that your homeowners doesn't pay if it is considered business property (if you are a paid to perform could cross the line).Your Auto insurance may also legitimately deny a claim for your own personal property under the property damage liability as you can't sue yourself for your own mistake as a basic concept of law.

If your insurance does pay, feel good and it may be subject to the homeowners deductible. Consider a seperate policy (personal articles policy or floater) for specific high cost items and would be problematic if an odd loss happen. Example: diamond falls out of wedding ring, it is not a theft and generally would not be a covered loss without specific add-on coverage. If I tripped and fell on my Tuba causing damage, the homeowners doesn't pay for this type of loss, that is why I pay for the extra coverage.

sffz · Post by **sffz** » Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:49 pm

the 'grandma' thing was what I was going for. I was counting on intelligent tubists to tumble. Good job!

Steve Oberheu · Post by **Steve Oberheu** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:41 pm

Tuba got run over by a Hyundai
After my quintet gig, Christmas Eve
You can say there's no such thing as Bobo
But as for me and Grandpa, we believe

I'd been drinking way too much eggnog
The pistons were moving kind of slow
I stumbled off to flag down a taxi
And left my gig bag out there in the snow

When I found it Christmas morning
I could do little more than curse
If only that driver checked his mirrors
And put the gear in Drive instead of Reverse

Tuba got run over by a Hyundai
After my quintet gig, Christmas Eve
You can say there's no such thing as Bobo
But as for me and Grandpa, we believe

Now we're all so proud of Randy
He's been taking this so well
Despite the mangled valves and damaged leadpipe
And wrinkles and the crinkles in the bell

It's not Christmas without a tuba
"Hark the Herald" sounds so dull and bland
And I just can't help but wonder
Do I switch to washtub bass or quit the band?

Tuba got run over by a Hyundai
After my quintet gig, Christmas Eve
You can say there's no such thing as Bobo
But as for me and Grandpa, we believe

sffz · Post by **sffz** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:17 pm

Steve, That was fantastic. It is the first thing that actually made me feel better the last copule of days. Woo hoo!

THANKS!

Randy

tubatooter1940 · Post by **tubatooter1940** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:45 pm

Great post, Steve,
You sucessfully turned a tragedy into a highly comedic adaptation.
It cracked me up.

I did not take time to toetap out your phrasing.
I would check lyric rhythm if I was planning on playing and singing this fine work for my rowdy friends at Christmas. I am trying to clean up the "Christmas Hippo" song to add to the Christmas tune list and that's enough work for me this season.

Dennis Gray
tubatooter1940
www.johnreno.com/

Steve Oberheu · Post by **Steve Oberheu** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:58 pm

sffz wrote:Steve, That was fantastic. It is the first thing that actually made me feel better the last copule of days. Woo hoo!

THANKS!

Randy

My pleasure!

Good luck with the repairs and everything!

-Steve O.

MikeMason · Post by **MikeMason** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:17 am

Steve, makin me smile

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:16 pm

... and I thought it might be more appropriate if my Hyundai got run over by a tuba

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:50 am

harold wrote:Anybody know the status of this horn? Did he get it repaired, who did the work and how does it look?

The Hyundai or the tuba?

eupher61 · Post by **eupher61** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:38 pm

Not to mention the well-known tubist who, in his previous position, saw fit to buy what was then officially called a Yorkbrunner. While practicing one particular day, seated in his normal position on a riser, he fell off, onto the instrument. Fortunately, the very craftsman who had actually built the instrument was at CMC doing some training at that time. The instrument was fixed to the point of undetectable, fortunately. Of course, in his new position he doesn't need that horn necessarily.

Oh, the whole thing was recorded and used on his answering machine for a while. That was the only good part about the original situation!

sffz · Post by **sffz** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:51 pm

Update on the horn.

It is a Oberloh's and Dan says he is going to gently coax it back into shape. I have seen what he can do when he "coaxes" so I have nor fear.

He was a very understanding, kind and considerate. He said it might be ready in a month!

I post some before and after pix. Dan said he might do some pictures for you all, too.

Randy

Tubaing · Post by **Tubaing** » Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:15 pm

sffz wrote:It is at Oberloh's and Dan says he is going to gently coax it back into shape. I have seen what he can do when he "coaxes" so I have nor fear.

He was a very understanding, kind and considerate. He said it might be ready in a month!

I post some before and after pix. Dan said he might do some pictures for you all, too.

Any update?

MaryAnn · Post by **MaryAnn** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:19 pm

What a drag. Glad to hear it's at the surgeon's office now.

Great rhyme, Steve!

While I haven't had such a traumatic experience as this, I did have a couple embarrassing head-slappers years ago, which caused me to institute my "rule of luggage with the car:"

It's ok to put anything on the car you want, while you're finishing up other stuff, but it has to go on the hood in front of the driver's seat. This rule came about after losing/breaking/etc stuff that was put on the roof prior to driving off, but it works for me. I suppose the tuba rule could be it's ok to put it on the ground but it has to be right next to the driver's door so the driver can't get in and drive without moving it.

As I got older I found it necessary to make up these rules for avoiding traumatic damage to property. I had a friend who put her $10,000 violin on the roof and then drove off.

MA

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:21 pm

MaryAnn wrote:I had a friend who put her $10,000 violin on the roof and then drove off.

Was it a one story house, or a two story? OH, you mean on the car!

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