Alan Baer solo CD
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Just noticed yesterday that Alex Shapiro also has a few additional clips (of her piece) on her website at:bdjwill wrote:From what i hear on the samples, this is going to be an awesome CD
http://www.alexshapiro.org/ASMFTBICD1.html
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This is a stunning CD. I got mine the other day and I've already listened to it twice. It's not hard to understand why Al holds the chair that he does!
I have been really interested in these new Miraphone F tubas, so I looked at the pictures of the instruments pretty closely. There are three different Miraphones in the photos in the CD liner notes.
1) The cover has a six-valve 281, and looks like the same horn that is for sale at the Brasswind.
2) The photo where Al is wearing a black shirt looks like a very different horn. The first valve slide is much narrower than the 281 on the cover, and it only has five valves. Is this a prototype, or is the production 5-valve horn really different from the six-valve horn?
3) The close-up where Al is wearing a white bow tie looks like yet another instrument - the leadpipe seems to wrap very differently than either of the 281's and the bell is a lot larger. Is this a Miraphone CC?
There is also a fourth "picture" of a Miraphone F that I'm curious about. In the broadcast of the Mahler 1st last week, Al used what looked like a 5-valve 281 with no lacquer. It also appeared to have the narrow first valve slide, so is this the same horn that is in the "black shirt photo" in the CD liner, minus the lacquer? That was an awesome Mahler 1, and Al and Harwood sounded fabulous together.
OK, enough questions. Hopefully Al can chime in and make a few comments - I don't have an email address for him or I would have emailed him directly.
I'm going to have to find a 281 to try. I liked the previous generation Miraphone F, but it had some intonation problems I couldn't get past. Word is that the 281 doesn't have those problems.
Thanks for any details anyone can provide!
Rod
I have been really interested in these new Miraphone F tubas, so I looked at the pictures of the instruments pretty closely. There are three different Miraphones in the photos in the CD liner notes.
1) The cover has a six-valve 281, and looks like the same horn that is for sale at the Brasswind.
2) The photo where Al is wearing a black shirt looks like a very different horn. The first valve slide is much narrower than the 281 on the cover, and it only has five valves. Is this a prototype, or is the production 5-valve horn really different from the six-valve horn?
3) The close-up where Al is wearing a white bow tie looks like yet another instrument - the leadpipe seems to wrap very differently than either of the 281's and the bell is a lot larger. Is this a Miraphone CC?
There is also a fourth "picture" of a Miraphone F that I'm curious about. In the broadcast of the Mahler 1st last week, Al used what looked like a 5-valve 281 with no lacquer. It also appeared to have the narrow first valve slide, so is this the same horn that is in the "black shirt photo" in the CD liner, minus the lacquer? That was an awesome Mahler 1, and Al and Harwood sounded fabulous together.
OK, enough questions. Hopefully Al can chime in and make a few comments - I don't have an email address for him or I would have emailed him directly.
I'm going to have to find a 281 to try. I liked the previous generation Miraphone F, but it had some intonation problems I couldn't get past. Word is that the 281 doesn't have those problems.
Thanks for any details anyone can provide!
Rod
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all the horns
Hi All,
Here is the story about the horns. The two F's, the one on the cover and the one in the booklet are both 281 F tubas. One is a 5 valver and the other is a 6 valve. There were changes made after the photo on the cover was taken, the instrument on the inside has the current wrap and 1st valve slide used. The horn used on the Mahler is ALSO a 281. This is the prototype 6 valve that I used on the CD. Finally, the larger horn in the CD booklet is the lacquered prototype 1291.
Here is the story about the horns. The two F's, the one on the cover and the one in the booklet are both 281 F tubas. One is a 5 valver and the other is a 6 valve. There were changes made after the photo on the cover was taken, the instrument on the inside has the current wrap and 1st valve slide used. The horn used on the Mahler is ALSO a 281. This is the prototype 6 valve that I used on the CD. Finally, the larger horn in the CD booklet is the lacquered prototype 1291.
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For anyone who has been asking about the Vals Venezolano track on the CD - it is available in certain formats through International Opus.
It was written as a middle movement of a woodwind Quintet called "Aires Tropicales". You can get Vals Venezolano along with another tune called "Contradanza". Paquito DiRivera has arranged it for several different instruments. Here is the link:
http://www.internationalopus.com/cgi-bi ... composer=9
Cheers,
Al
It was written as a middle movement of a woodwind Quintet called "Aires Tropicales". You can get Vals Venezolano along with another tune called "Contradanza". Paquito DiRivera has arranged it for several different instruments. Here is the link:
http://www.internationalopus.com/cgi-bi ... composer=9
Cheers,
Al
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Say it ain't so, Ryan!Tubaryan12 wrote:I finally got around to ordering the cd this week. It arrived in about 3 days. After listening to it, I have these comments:
For sale:
Marzan BBb tuba, make offer.
I quit.
dayum.
Even though we all can't be WB-AJ-WD-AB-CJ-?? just have fun blowin' the horn and try to make the best music you possibly can within your abilities.
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MartyNeilan wrote:Say it ain't so, Ryan!Tubaryan12 wrote:I finally got around to ordering the cd this week. It arrived in about 3 days. After listening to it, I have these comments:
For sale:
Marzan BBb tuba, make offer.
I quit.
dayum.
Even though we all can't be WB-AJ-WD-AB-CJ-?? just have fun blowin' the horn and try to make the best music you possibly can within your abilities.
All joking aside, I wish I had heard playing like that years ago. It would have lit the same type of fire under me that hearing Maynard Ferguson did for junior high trumpet players.
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Ok, somebody please help me out here. I hit the Paypal "add to cart" link, and I logged into Paypal. But then what? It gives no indication of what email address to send the money to. What am I missing?
Next, I went to the "contacts" part of Mr. Baer's website and found the email address, but it would not allow itself to be cut and pasted into the Paypal blank. So I put it in by hand and submitted the payment. I still have no clue about how much postage I owe, if any.
I don't think the "add to cart" button on my website is that hard to use, is it?
Next, I went to the "contacts" part of Mr. Baer's website and found the email address, but it would not allow itself to be cut and pasted into the Paypal blank. So I put it in by hand and submitted the payment. I still have no clue about how much postage I owe, if any.
I don't think the "add to cart" button on my website is that hard to use, is it?
