List of Orchestral Works Requiring Two or More Tubas

LoyalTubist · Post by **LoyalTubist** » Mon May 01, 2006 6:31 pm

On many late Italian Romantic works, such as Puccini operas, the 4th Trombone part is a Tuba part, or vice versa.

Steve Marcus · Post by **Steve Marcus** » Mon May 01, 2006 11:47 pm

Shostakovich Symphony #2 is a one-movement 20-minute long work for orchestra, chorus and extra brass (including tuba). The "extra brass" plays in the last seven bars only. (Oh, how did I ever get roped into that????)

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Tue May 09, 2006 7:58 pm

Norm Pearson wrote:Sir Michael Tippett Symphony #4 (Great tuba parts!)

I've played at least one of David Del Tredeci's orchestra pieces that include two tuba parts, Final Alice (?)

I had the Tippet and I have Tattoo by Del Tredici. It appears that Final Alice only uses one tuba.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Tue May 09, 2006 8:17 pm

datubaguy wrote:You should add the piece that we are doing this week here in Boston with the BSO. Its a piece from Hans Werner Henze's opera ''The Bassarids." Henze recently composed a condensed version, ''Adagio, Fugue, and Maenads' Dance." The BSO is putting on the American premiere in honor of the composer's upcoming 80th birthday (July 1). One more performance tonight, then again this next Tuesday night. William Russell is playing the second tuba part.

Mike Roylance

I've added it. I also noticed that the BSO received some nice reviews for the performance of this piece.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Tue May 09, 2006 8:27 pm

THE TUBA wrote:I the March from Borodin's Prince Igor has an additional brass section (including tuba) offstage, and I think Percy Grangerâ€™s The Warriors is written to include another brass section (I am not sure if this includes a tuba or not) offstage.

Does a tenor tuba count as another tuba (i.e. The Planets, Don Quixote, etc.)?

Daniels and Lucks both list the Borodin as one tuba. Lucks and Schott's list the Grainger as one tuba.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Tue May 09, 2006 8:59 pm

I have compiled a updated list of orchestral works that require two or more tubas. Here is the PDF version: http://64.225.239.249/TwoTubas.pdf.

As always, corrections, additions or suggestions are welcome.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:05 pm

tuben wrote:You might add this:

Alexander Glazunov
Opus 88: Finnish Fantasy in C major for orchestra (1909) - 2 tubas

montre8 wrote:You could add:

S. Prokofiev - Cantata for the 20th Anniversary of the October Revolution

... 2 tubas, ...

Thanks, I'll confirm these and update the file in the next few days.

tubajoe · Post by **tubajoe** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:23 pm

also to add:

Charles Ives: Universe Symphony

There are 3 editions. The Reinhard and Porter editions have 2 tuba parts, the Austin edition has 1.

also, Ives' Robert Browning Overture is listed as having an optional 2nd tuba part.

http://www.charlesives.org/03catorch.htm

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:57 pm

tubajoe wrote:also to add:

Charles Ives: Universe Symphony

There are 3 editions. The Reinhard and Porter editions have 2 tuba parts, the Austin edition has 1.

also, Ives' Robert Browning Overture is listed as having an optional 2nd tuba part.

http://www.charlesives.org/03catorch.htm

Confirmed! Thank you.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:00 pm

tuben wrote:You might add this:

Alexander Glazunov
Opus 88: Finnish Fantasy in C major for orchestra (1909) - 2 tubas

I can't find any reference for this work. Do you know who the publisher is?

montre8 wrote:You could add:

S. Prokofiev - Cantata for the 20th Anniversary of the October Revolution

... 2 tubas, ...

I tried the http://www.prokofiev.org and it does not appear to be working. I can't find any other reference for this work. Do you know who the publisher is?

Chuck(G) · Post by **Chuck(G)** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:06 pm

Mark wrote:I have compiled a updated list of orchestral works that require two or more tubas. Here is the PDF version: http://64.225.239.249/TwoTubas.pdf.

As always, corrections, additions or suggestions are welcome.

The problem with some of the older stuff scored for 2 ophicleides, such as the Berlioz Symphonie FunÃ¨bre is that the upper tuba might as well be a euphonium. The high part never goes below F at the bottom of the staff, but does climb to a G above the staff. Most of the time, it's just octaves with the low tuba.

Are there any published guidelines on substituting tubas for ophicleides?

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:46 pm

montre8 wrote:prokofiev.org didn't load for me either...

It's working again. Thanks.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:22 pm

Orchestral Works Requiring Two or More Tubas

I have updated the list as of 3/17/2007: http://www.dogandtuba.com/TwoTubas.pdf

Any corrections, additions or suggestions are welcome.

Please note by tuba I mean a bass or contrabass tuba. I did not include works that require a tenor tuba or cimbasso.

JustinLerma · Post by **JustinLerma** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:31 pm

I might be mistaken but doesn't Rite of Sring have two tuba parts?

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:56 pm

JustinLerma wrote:I might be mistaken but doesn't Rite of Sring have two tuba parts?

It does and it's on the list.

tbn.al · Post by **tbn.al** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:14 pm

Mark wrote:
tuben wrote:You might add this:

Alexander Glazunov
Opus 88: Finnish Fantasy in C major for orchestra (1909) - 2 tubas
I can't find any reference for this work. Do you know who the publisher is?

I can attest that a part exists, because I am going out the door to program the work now with tuben and a few of our closest musician friends. Unfortuately the parts will have to be returned after tha concert tonight. I can pm you a copy of the Trombone III part. It's marked as if to be from a rental company. I don't know this name. M.P. Balaiff, Frankfurt. They may be the publisher as well.

porkchopsisgood · Post by **porkchopsisgood** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:14 pm

I believe Walton's Belshazzar's Feast has three tuba parts (usually two are ignored).

The two extraneous parts are in the antiphonal brass bands.

Worth confirming and adding to your superb list. Thanks.

AVC