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Alfred Reed Canto e Camdombe

I don't have much of a career (high school), and therefore my take on this might not be worth much, but I know that out of 5 high school directors in my county and my private teacher (a middle school teacher) not one had heard of or played this piece for wind ensemble. For all I know though, college bands might play it all the time...

Still, it's a really cool piece that we played at Maryland All-State.
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Vaghn Holmboe - Quintet
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Deems Taylor- A Day at the Circus
Kurt Atterburg- the complete 9 Symphonies
Jean Sibelius- Symphony #3
Malcom Arnold- Peterloo Overture
Holst- the orchestral version of "Hammersmith"
Andrejz Panufnik- His whole catalogue
Bill Laswell- Bass Lines
Richard Cheese- Lounge Against the Machine
Shostakovich- The Death of Stepan Rezan
Brand X- all their cd's. Phil Collins is actually a good drummer who should never be allowed to sing. Percy Jones could have taught Jaco some things.
Revueltas- Redes (can't understand why this piece isn't played more).
Janacek- The Mikroupolus Affair and Jenufu
Nicolai Ghuirov- the greatest bass singer of all times.
Anything and Everything recorded by Art Tatum.

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In performing, Vaughan Williams 9th Symphony and Suk Asrael Symphony - both should be in concert much more often!

Listening, then Rutland Boughton Symphony No.3, Furtwangler Symphony No.2 (the CSO recording), Taneyev Symphony No.4, Rott Symphony in E major (which sounds like Mahler, although it predates him!) and Wetz Symphony No.3 (bound to appeal to anyone who loves Bruckner) are all little known works which have really grabbed me.

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Dear all
I'm going to go with some of Malcolm Arnold's dances. Now his English and Scottish dances are quite well-known, but he also composed sets of Cornish, Irish and Welsh dances, which are far less-frequently heard. The Irish and Welsh dances, in particular, were composed at the end of his career (1986 and 1988, respectively), after (I believe) his marriage ended and two suicide attempts, so they are understandably much much darker and moodier than the English ones.
The Cornish Dances are an absolute scream :lol:

One of the movements is a pastishe on a Methodist hymn tune and is so well done you fall off your perch. Its years (30 plus........!!) since I played the piece, I've no memory of the Tuba part so it can't have been that difficult.

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Me again.........

Get Pictures at an Exhibition - Mussorgsky

arranged Stokowski :!: :!: :!:

with Oliver Knussen and The Cleveland Orchestra

on Deutsche Gramm 457 646-2

Its a Cd of "alternative" arrangements by the great man - also includes Boris Godunov, Entracte from Khovanshchina and Night on a Bare Mountain - a fascinating take on Pictures with some other little gems that are rarely performed.

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tubiker wrote:The Cornish Dances are an absolute scream :lol:

One of the movements is a pastishe on a Methodist hymn tune and is so well done you fall off your perch. Its years (30 plus........!!) since I played the piece, I've no memory of the Tuba part so it can't have been that difficult.

Andrew M
Good, I have got the Cornish Dances coming up next month - I will look forward to it!

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-the works of Morton Feldman. I've just recently found these, and I think they're great.

-"The Mask of Orpheus" by Harrison Birtwhistle.

-"An Idyll for the Misbegotten" by George Crumb

-"17 Lyrics of Li Po" by Harry Partch

-the works of Moondog

-"I Am Sitting in a Room" by Alvin Lucier

-the music of the Locust. Now they're one of my favorite bands.

-Peter Brotzmann, Franz Koglmann, and all of the great European free jazz sax players.

-Albert Ayler was a revelation to me, since I'd never heard of him before.
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Passacaglia on a Well-Known Theme - Gordon Jacob

Dances of Galanta - Zoltán Kodály
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These might (or might not) be well known OUTSIDE our little tuba circle, but I'm not sure if a lot of us low-blowers have heard of them:

Concertino in Eb - Sachse

Suite for Flute & Jazz Piano Trio - Bolling
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Edward Elgar's Severn Suite. Virtually unknown outside the brass band world.
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Aco wrote:The Original (1874) version of Bruckner's 4th Symphony.

http://www.amazon.com/Anton-Bruckner-Sy ... 593&sr=1-1
Personally, I prefer his revised version - partly because it includes a tuba and the original does not.

However a couple of symphonies where i do think the original is better is:

Tchaikovsky Symphony No.2
http://www.chandos.net/details06.asp?CN ... AN%2010041

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Vaughan Williams London Symphony
http://www.chandos.net/details06.asp?CN ... HSA%205001

Both include good music, omitted from the final version.
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Shostakovich: The Execution of Stepan Razin, awesome piece, loaded with low brass power, and one of the most fiendish clarinet licks ever conceived.

Albinoni: Oboe Concerto in D Minor, which has since become my favorite solo piece to play.

Buxtedhude: Anything.

Vaughan-Williams: Henry V Overture for Brass Band, especially the last 2 minutes or so.

Dukas Symphony in C: Heard it for the first time in 1998 performed by the New York Philharmonic, incidentally on the same program as the Overture to Die Meistersinger. This was on a High School band trip my senior year, talk about phenomenal.

Tchaikovsky: Dance of the Jesters, I just love the way it sounds, and its fun as hell to play.

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Carlos Chavez - Horsepower Suite

Chavez was a contemporary of Revueltas (born in the same year, actually)and one of the better composers to fall in the category of "Why isn't that played more?" He met Paul Dukas while in Paris, spent a couple formative years in NYC, but otherwise lived most of his life in Mexico. You can easily hear influences of the 20th c. French school in his orchestrations, Stravinsky and Copland in his technique, all still with Mexican influences in the driver's seat. Awesome stuff.

I've never seen/heard Horsepower Suite performed; I came across Chavez and his music while doing a paper on 20th c. Latin American composers while in grad school.

It's worth a listen-to.
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Greetings all,

I'll add a few to the list....

Bliss - Colour Symphony
Torke - Color Music (sorry, just popped into mind)
Prokofiev - Ivan the Terrible
Gliere - Symphony No. 3
Harty - Irish Symphony
Stanford - any symphonies/rhapsody
Hovhaness - Mountains and Rivers Without Emd
Barber - Symphony No. 1
Beach - Symphony in E Minor (Gaelic)
Bax - Tintagel
Maxwell Davies - Orkney Wedding
Chadwick - Symphony No. 2/Symphonic Sketches
Stenhammer - Symphony No. 2/Excelsior Overture
Rouse - Symphony No. 2
Massenet - Orchestral Suites

I'll add more later.....

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There's so much really undiscovered music from around the turn of the 20th century that I'm surprised when a group will program nothing but "warhorses".

Last night, I was listening to Converse's "Endymion's Narrative". A remarkable piece of music. Given my age and the decline of classical music performance, I don't expect to hear it performed live in my lifetime.
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Neptune wrote:Rott Symphony in E major (which sounds like Mahler, although it predates him!)"
I've actually heard that Mahler studied Rott's score before he wrote his first symphony, and the Symphony in E is just about the only work of Rott's that survived, because he burned all of his other stuff. Does anybody know of any other Rott works that are extant?
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tubiker wrote:Me again.........

Get Pictures at an Exhibition - Mussorgsky

arranged Stokowski :!: :!: :!:

with Oliver Knussen and The Cleveland Orchestra

on Deutsche Gramm 457 646-2
Yes, I do like the Ravel orchestration of Pictures, but there is no substitute for Mussorgsky's origional piano version.
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