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Does silver plating have a different sound than lacquer?

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pierso20 wrote:well, silver plating, believe it or not for my horn *this was a recent quote* was only $500...assuming all other repairs had been previously done....now to me......that is a deal because what separates my horn from some others I see is the cosmetics. Though, obviously since I created this thread, I am not taking this decision lightly. Plus, though I agree raw brass is better than scratched lacquer...I think it's still ugly.

Thanks for imput so far.
As with a car's paint job, the quality of the product is in the preparation, not the paint. Before you can gain any improvement in appearance from silver, the instrument needs to be perfect. Every ripple, ding, scratch, and so on will become more apparent under silver plating.

The usual process is to 1.) overhaul the instrument to make it perfect, 2.) carefully buff it to a mirror polish, including ragging out all the narrow openings, and so on, 3.) disassembling the bits and providing proper masking, 4.) send it to Anderson for plating (that's the $500 part), 5.) carefully remove the silver from places it doesn't belong, such as in valve casings and tuning slides, 6.) assemble the instrument and deal with any plating-related issues that arose.

Silver over a scratched, dull, and dinged instrument will look worse than raw brass, in my eyes. Of course, everyone has their preference.

The paint for a high-end car paint job may be $800 or $1000, but the preparation, application, and touch-up of that paint job will be more like $5000-10,000.

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pierso20 wrote:well, silver plating, believe it or not for my horn *this was a recent quote* was only $500.
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Courtesy of the "search" function, here is a description of the silver plating process by Herr Oberloh. With pictures.

viewtopic.php?t=2181&start=0&postdays=0 ... ng+oberloh

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I think in that advertisment, the operative phrase is "AS LOW AS"
(Doesn't seem to mention an upward limit, just the lower... :shock: :D )
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bloke wrote:
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2/ Since tuba players mostly play quarter notes and half notes [/size]"
come on....give us more credit than that....i WISH I could play that kidna stuff again...it'd be relaxing in rehearsal...lol

You're F Horn comment (and picture) is noted. :)


The thing is, I play in college and will continue through college and beyond.....In front of people...., therefore I would like the horn to look nice....lol.
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Ok..now don't get me wrong, plating my horn is an option I'm considering....but of course, my first priority is to fix it up......make it dent free, smooth out any problem areas, valve work...etc..

Any other things, such as plating, is up for speculation...though, if I could, i think i would.

Anyway......

I went to WoodWind and Brasswind today looking for an F tuba....played a couple of nice horns.

See, I want a nice lookin C tuba and I NEED a new F...I can't get a new CC and new F horn...so Fix up the C and purchase the F is what I'm thinkin of.
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bloke wrote:...and I'm supposed to rationalize the requests of, statistically, the most suicidal group of brass players...??
And this is more insane than, say, a trumpet player obsessing over gold-plated Brazilian agate valve buttons? :roll:

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Maybe I've overestimated the sanity of tuba players and should start marketing "trim kits".
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haha :lol: that gives me an idea...why don't I silver plate AND then have gold trim...lol


I'm just kidding..
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I played an older Willson 5/4 horn...can't remember the model number....it was a heavy mother, but damn could it sing. Good dark tone, surprisingly, but very big sound. If only I had 7g....

I also played the new Meinl Weston 2182....awesome little horn. Fit right in my lap, but played like it was bigger. A couple of squirrely notes, which wern't so squirrely on the other F's...but very good.

Oh, and the willson's C's and Bb's popped out like a CC horn...very cool

I also played one of the SLP's...and you know, I couldn't force myself to play it enough to know how it sounded because tue valve spread it too large. It was soooo uncomftorable for my hands that I just had to tell them to take it away. haha

Overall a good trip.....though, I still don't have 7G to spend on a horn.
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Chuck(G) wrote:
bloke wrote:...and I'm supposed to rationalize the requests of, statistically, the most suicidal group of brass players...??
And this is more insane than, say, a trumpet player obsessing over gold-plated Brazilian agate valve buttons? :roll:

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In the mid to late 90s, if you were an East Coast tuba player, you had the colored finger buttons from Dillon Music. If I could find sets of them today, I and I'm sure countless others would still buy them in mass quantities.
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jtuba wrote:In the mid to late 90s, if you were an East Coast tuba player, you had the colored finger buttons from Dillon Music. If I could find sets of them today, I and I'm sure countless others would still buy them in mass quantities.
You make this sound as if it was history. The first place I saw Matt's creations was on Cam Gates' Martin F. But I don't believe that they were gold-plated, nor do I think they were made from semiprecious stones.
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how about a GOLD tuba and silver buttons? haha
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pierso20 wrote:how about a GOLD tuba and silver buttons? haha
As Hank, Sr. used to sing: "If you got the money, honey, I got the time..."
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