Meinl-Weston visit *with pictures*

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:03 pm

Bob1062 wrote:EDIT- That "bigger bell" 18 looks real nice. I should have me a honk on one of those sometime.

I really liked the 18. Not surprising as it apparently has the same 19" bell as my PT-20 CC, so sounds somewhat alike.

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:14 pm

Scooby Tuba wrote:BTW, so, you like that little horn they call "THE GOD OF THUNDER" (insert echo here...)

I knew you would...

Well, if any horn can persuade me to try pistons again, it is the Thor - but let's face it - I have enough tubas already

GC · Post by GC » Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:41 pm

The web site says that the 18 has a 17.5" bell. Was the 19" on this one a new standard, or was that a one-off, or is the 19" an error?

If it has a real 19" bell, I wonder what a 19" bell could do for a model 25.

finnbogi · Post by **finnbogi** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:11 pm

Neptune wrote:No Eb's to be seen

I visited Geretsried two months ago and tried the 2141 and the 2040/5 E flat tubas. Both were wonderful horns but I rather preferred the rotary, for some reason I have never liked front action pistons.
I also tried the B flats and a few of the C horns, and I haven't been able to take my mind of the Fafner since. It is definitely at the top of my Most covetable things list.

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:26 pm

Bob1062 wrote:Did the front action HoJo seem weird with a .655 bore? I know the bore is definitely not everything, but it does seem sorta small.

Well it didn't seem weird to me. A more direct, clear tone than usual on a BBb. I would think it would be good for a BBb player who wants a small ensemble tuba.

GC wrote:The web site says that the 18 has a 17.5" bell. Was the 19" on this one a new standard, or was that a one-off, or is the 19" an error?

Sorry, don't know which.

Steve Inman · Post by **Steve Inman** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:18 pm

Okay everybody, go back to the Fafner photo -- THIS ONE matches the picture at the MW web site -- which does NOT have the 4th valve tuning slide brought "up top" like the MW 25. Yet in another photo shown in another thread, they DO have the 4th valve up top -- just like the MW 25 configuration on the MW web site.

So -- why the variation?

Very curious,

bttmbow · Post by **bttmbow** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:56 pm

What is that silver plated six valve F tuba? Looks pretty interesting to me. I don't think it's the Kodiak, but I could be wrong; it does look awfully big.

CJH

ScotGJ · Post by **ScotGJ** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:31 pm

Way cool! Thanks for sharing.

cambrook · Post by **cambrook** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:20 am

...looks to me more like the 45H-L on the MW page. There are slight differences, the pic on the MW page has the optional quint valve fitted, perhaps the silver one in the photo doesn't. In any case, the 3rd slide on the Kodiak goes up, not down, and the rest of the valve plumbing looks different.

http://www.baertracksmusic.com/index.ph ... t=1&id=243

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:12 am

Nice.

MikeMason · Post by **MikeMason** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:04 pm

that practice/travel tuba always cracks me up...does anyone know if prices for the kodiak or the travel tuba have been established?

Cameron Gates · Post by **Cameron Gates** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:57 pm

These are really great pictures.

I have a question. In the picture of the fella working on the valve cluster it appears to me that it is a 5 valve cluster with the last one hidden under his hand. The tubing off the valve closest to the table has got to be the first valve with the 2nd valve very evident also. So the question is: WHAT THE HECK IS THIS VALVE CLUSTER TO? I have never seen a line of valves with the 5th on the bottom.

Is this some kind of euro-only F?

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:12 pm

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cjk · Post by **cjk** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:32 pm

Cameron Gates wrote:These are really great pictures.

I have a question. In the picture of the fella working on the valve cluster it appears to me that it is a 5 valve cluster with the last one hidden under his hand. The tubing off the valve closest to the table has got to be the first valve with the 2nd valve very evident also. So the question is: WHAT THE HECK IS THIS VALVE CLUSTER TO? I have never seen a line of valves with the 5th on the bottom.

Is this some kind of euro-only F?

I think that a 45SLZ F tuba I played at the factory had that arrangement. It was not the same arrangement as the picture on the MW website. The 46SLZ I played there had the 5th and 6th valves before the first. Unfortunately, I didn't take a picture of either since I was more interested in CC instruments.

Here's a picture of a 45SLZ apparently with a bunch of custom work (the leftmost tuba in the picture):
http://www.melton-tuba-quartett.de/engl ... farbe1.tif

cjk · Post by **cjk** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:40 pm

Mike Johnson wrote:
bttmbow wrote:What is that silver plated six valve F tuba? Looks pretty interesting to me. I don't think it's the Kodiak, but I could be wrong; it does look awfully big.

CJH
46H-MQ Hilgers model. with quint valve (drops it a 5th)
They had one for Walters student when I was there. It had 4 vent keys on it. Goodness knows what for.
Mike

Waterkeys anyone?

Cameron Gates · Post by **Cameron Gates** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:17 pm

cjk wrote:I think that a 45SLZ F tuba I played at the factory had that arrangement. It was not the same arrangement as the picture on the MW website. The 46SLZ I played there had the 5th and 6th valves before the first. Unfortunately, I didn't take a picture of either since I was more interested in CC instruments.

Here's a picture of a 45SLZ apparently with a bunch of custom work (the leftmost tuba in the picture):
http://www.melton-tuba-quartett.de/engl ... farbe1.tif

Wow, the investigative wing of the TNJF is amazing. Even on a Saturday. Great work. Looks like a cool horn.

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:08 pm

Maybe the vents are for playing ophicleide parts

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:37 am

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Meinl-Weston visit with pictures

Re: Meinl-Weston visit with pictures

Fafner 4th valve location

cool

The 6 valve F tuba...