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Can somebody recommend a great symphonic recording of the VW Tuba concerto? I've searched TubeNet and I'm certain it's been covered. I link to a prior discussion would be helpful too.
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Theres two ways of thinking when playing the VW(IMO,though a novice oppinion at that) :
1)Playing to an educated audience, meaning an audience that understands tuba solos and the VW tuba concerto. Then I would most definately look for the Phillip Catillenet versrion wich I found on the "Classical Music Library" great recording
2)Play to an audience of mixed tuba knowledge. For This I would recomend the Hans Nickel recording, also great recording.
Now I know and expect people to rip my comment to shreds as I am still trying to decide wich way I would play it or if I would choose any of these ways (as I said a novice comment, though I thought might be worth 2 cents)
But before people rip this apart, I would recomend some thought of "do you consider yourself as part of the audience?"
Again feel free to criticize any of this, especially the TNFJ
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1)Playing to an educated audience, meaning an audience that understands tuba solos and the VW tuba concerto. Then I would most definately look for the Phillip Catillenet versrion wich I found on the "Classical Music Library" great recording
2)Play to an audience of mixed tuba knowledge. For This I would recomend the Hans Nickel recording, also great recording.
Now I know and expect people to rip my comment to shreds as I am still trying to decide wich way I would play it or if I would choose any of these ways (as I said a novice comment, though I thought might be worth 2 cents)
But before people rip this apart, I would recomend some thought of "do you consider yourself as part of the audience?"
Again feel free to criticize any of this, especially the TNFJ
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I always consider the audience. I have to be honest and say, if I want to play for myself I can play at home with the electronic gadgets I have (synthesizer and such along with tuba). However, I believe in playing what the audience wants to hear or what they might like. Otherwise it's like trying to feed me tofu or goatmeat. I'll take a couple of bites of each and say, "Shee! That's tofu and goat!" Then I won't eat it. Your audience will act the same way if they don't like your music, although they might be a little more polite.
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Re: Vaughan Williams
The Fletcher recording is the standard by which others are measured.Eric B wrote:Can somebody recommend a great symphonic recording of the VW Tuba concerto? I've searched TubeNet and I'm certain it's been covered. I link to a prior discussion would be helpful too.
Micheal Lind recorded it. Too pretty for me.
There is a Catelinet recording made the day following the premiere. Not pretty enough for me.
The Hans Nickel recording on Cantuballada is one of my favorites.
The Jacobs recording fits in the historical sequence, but in my opinion contributes more to Tubenet commentary than to Vaughan Williams.
There is a Bill Bell recording with the Little Orchestra Society of New York (that was privately sold on this forum a while back). It' also has it's logical place in the historical record, and does contribute to the composer's essential character. It has humor, and the Nickel is the only other one I've heard that also does. How can this work be performed without humor?
There are other examples listed in the thread, several of which I also own. But I keep going back to the Nickel.
Of all of those, the Fletcher is probably the most available and probably the appropriate starting point.
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Thanks for posting the Michael Moore llink. I very much enjoyed that. I would call that a "Great Recording".
Thanks for posting the Michael Moore llink. I very much enjoyed that. I would call that a "Great Recording".
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a good recent recording is James Gourlay on Naxos (8.557754).
it has some other interesting british tuba pieces on as well (Gregson, Steptoe and Golland)
it has some other interesting british tuba pieces on as well (Gregson, Steptoe and Golland)
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This is the recordingBob1062 wrote:Isn't a Walt Hilgers recording of him playing it, THEN conducting some other pieces?
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As a fan of Herr Hilgers playing, I recommended it a while back.
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