Bigger is better

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:36 am

Hit the archives. These horns have been discussed frequently here and a fairly regular poster owned one. From what I have read they are alot more nimble than they appear and are quite good instruments. This thing looks like it eats Yorks for breakfast and shits PT-6's with regularity.

Chuck"size, in this case, may matter"Jackson

jtuba · Post by **jtuba** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:09 am

There is absolutely nothing nimble about this horn.

The Big Ben · Post by **The Big Ben** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:50 am

The auction shows the horncomes with a case. The case has straps for carrying it on one's back. I think one would have to hire the Governator to tote it around. It should actually come with a car trailer. Or a dedicated Volkswagen transporter.....

Jeff "Eating burgers and shitting....." Benedict

jsswadley · Post by **jsswadley** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:03 pm

I would like to point out that the seller says he wants bids from Germany only and that he will not ship-it's a pick-up there where he is. Maybe you have friends in Deutschland. John

Kevin Hendrick · Post by **Kevin Hendrick** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:51 am

If this one isn't available in the U.S., and you'd be willing to "settle" for a new one, Lee Stofer is a Rudolf Meinl dealer -- I'd bet he could get one for you:

http://www.tubameister.com/

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:21 pm

Very tempting if the price does not go too high!

Jonathan "who could drive to Germany to collect"

jsswadley · Post by **jsswadley** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:18 pm

Might be worth it for you Jonathan. I once got a very good 5 valve F off the German eBay for only 600 Euros. I wonder if this no foreign bidders business shouldn't be forbidden in the EC. Good luck, John

MikeMason · Post by **MikeMason** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:29 pm

The Neptune is a really big horn,especially the bell.The rudy is half again as big IMO,absolutely huge.I don't really see a practical application for one,but your friends would surely be impressed...

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:33 am

MikeMason wrote:The Neptune is a really big horn,especially the bell.The rudy is half again as big IMO,absolutely huge.I don't really see a practical application for one,but your friends would surely be impressed...

Quite agreed! As far as the bell is concerned, it is as much bigger than the Neptune as the Neptune is the PT-20. It is difficult to see what's the practical use of the Rudy - but it still has its enormous, earth shaking attractions!

I was really just indulging in a little (or rather large) pipe dream with my previous post.

Jonathan "who thinks any friends would think he had gone completely mad, rather than be impressed "

Lars Trawen · Post by **Lars Trawen** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:35 pm

The bidding ended very recently. The winning bid was 2410 Euro, about 3300 USD.
Quite a reasonably price for such a tuba.
But then you have to pick it up in south Germany. No shipping!

djwesp · Post by **djwesp** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:39 pm

Finally! One of these horns (on german ebay), that I've actually played.

Too bad I wasn't fond of them. They are just genuinely too big for anything I'd ever need. The respond a little quicker than you would think, with a small mouthpiece in it, I wasn't carrying anything bigger at the time than an C4, but even then, they are application specific.

Who am I kidding. I'd take one in a heartbeat, but I just wouldn't be able to play it in 80% of the things I do.

MikeMason · Post by **MikeMason** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:26 pm

My German only consists of a few food items, did it actually sell for that or was that just the highest bid? If so, this would be one of the biggest tuba bargains ever(comparing new price to ebay price).I think new ones are in the high teens,low 20k range.I wonder if the rest of my quintet would help me drag it up into the balcony at that church we play in?....You could keep a block and tackle in the bell along with your BBC tuba stand....

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:36 pm

MikeMason wrote:My German only consists of a few food items, did it actually sell for that or was that just the highest bid?

My understanding is that it actually sold - there was no reserve price.

Actually the weight given in the advert was not that great. No heavier than a B&S Neptune and I am sure a lot lighter than an old Conn 25J I tried. Must be thinner metal due to being hand made.

I thought long and hard about bidding, as I could have driven over to collect (about 1600 mile round trip) - but in the end decided against. I just could not image that I would ever use such a monster enough!

Jonathan "who all the same thinks it would have been fun to have"

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:12 am

Bob1062 wrote:I wonder if these are more "common" in Europe (along with similar horns)?

They gotta be, but how MUCH more common?

Is not the Rudy 6/4 unique in its huge size? So I would guess very few are around, even in Germany.

I can't help thinking that most German players must feel this is just too large, by the relatively low price for which it sold.

I bet a 5/4 would have sold for much more.

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