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Doc wrote:Sheidt is good!
Scheidt is good shite. Particularly Centone V.

Horovitz "Music Hall Suite" isn't played nearly enough.

Collier Jones "Four Moods for Five Brass"
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What song is it you wanna hear?
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Instead of talking to your plants, if you yelled at them would they still grow, but only to be troubled and insecure?
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http://www.free-music-scores.com/Americ ... ore_US.pdf

This looks like it would be fun to do.
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Sometime in the future, I intend to start a quintet of composer/performers to play all original music.
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Scott C wrote: There are some new arrangements from Craig Gardner that are awesome: Ancient Airs and Dances, Resphigi;
In case anyone is looking for Craig's charts, the last name is actually "Garner". Thy are very solid and interesting pieces! Warning a plug here: And available at http://bvdpress.com/ along with almost all of the other charts listed in the thread.
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windshieldbug wrote:What song is it you wanna hear?
wchoc86 wrote:FREEBIRD YEA! FREEBIRD FREEBIRD FREEBIRD
That was a rite of passage. Oh, those were the days... Image
A couple years back I was at a Steve Earle concert when someone yelled, "Copperhead Road," after the second song. Steve stared at the guy and said, "Shut the (bleep) up. You think I could get out of here without playing that (bleeping) song?"

To stick with the thread, however, if you could recruit a local trombonist for one piece my vote would be Christer Danielsson's "Cappricio da Camera" (two trumpets, horn, two trombones with a featured solo for the tubist). Loads of fun for the tubist and it goes over very well with audiences.
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BVD Press wrote:Broughton - Three American Portraits

Fun, difficult and new last year!
I second that. We're playing the first two mvmts next week for the students.
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windshieldbug wrote:What song is it you wanna hear?
wchoc86 wrote:FREEBIRD YEA! FREEBIRD FREEBIRD FREEBIRD
That was a rite of passage. Oh, those were the days... Image
A couple years back I was at a Steve Earle concert when someone yelled, "Copperhead Road," after the second song. Steve stared at the guy and said, "Shut the (bleep) up. You think I could get out of here without playing that (bleeping) song?"

To stick with the thread, however, if you could recruit a local trombonist for one piece my vote would be Christer Danielsson's "Cappricio da Camera" (two trumpets, horn, two trombones with a featured solo for the tubist). Loads of fun for the tubist and it goes over very well with audiences.
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MartyNeilan wrote:Bach - "My Spirit Be Joyful" - the one with the running tuba part. Not "officially" published, but was in the trumpet journal a few years back and almost everyone has it.
Always gets my vote! I have a pdf of it somewhere.
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jtuba wrote:
BVD Press wrote:Broughton - Three American Portraits

Fun, difficult and new last year!
I second that. We're playing the first two mvmts next week for the students.
For anyone interested, it is now up on my site with a "Summer Sale" price of $25.00 (normally $32.00).

If you wondering, the tuba part is a great challenge and the you get to set the tempo in third movement which leaves the rest of the group at your mercy!
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Presser wrote some good quintet stuff, as has Wilder. The Sanders quintet from the 50s or 60s is doable with and Eb or F tuba covering the 2d trombone/euphonium part. There is a fine arrangement of the Vivaldi-Bach Concerto that is moderately easy to put together and sounds way virtuosic. Also a setting of Albinoni's St Paul Suite (Symphony?). Morley Calvert wrote some really good stuff too - 3 Dance Impressions and Suite from the Monteregian Hills, in particular work well on a concert. Also, look for Edward Tarr's settings of 19th century brass music by Ludwig Maurer - very sweet, easy to play and listenable.
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Ewald #4

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Chuck(G) wrote: Er, wasn't the so-called No. 4 just a transcription (by someone else) of his string quartet Op. 1?
Not identified as such on Wikipedia - not that that is exactly definitive
I believe Chuck(G) is right on this one. He wrote 3 Brass Quintets, the "4th" one is a transcription of a string quartet - with a 5th part being pulled out of the 4 parts. Not to mention that they didn't even bother to change the keys in edition Ive seen. Don't waste your money on that one.
According to Andre Smith, who in the 1990s published several articles on Ewald in the ITG Journal, the quintet that is called number four was actually Ewald's first work for brass. Inspired by the performances of the touring J. B. Arban, Ewald wrote music that turned out to be too difficult for him and his friends to play. In order not to waste his efforts, he arranged the piece for string quartet and went on to write his other brass quintets with more realistic demands.
Ewald, who I formerly thought of as a mystery man, turns out to have been quite well-known as an engineer. Despite being mentioned as a cellist in Rimsky-Korsakov's autobiography, he received little musical attention during his lifetime (1861-1933 as I recall). Nevertheless, Andre Smith regards him as the true founder of the brass quintet as a performance medium. It was Smith, by the way, who was responsible for locating quintets 2-4 (as they are numbered despite their dates of composition) through negotiations with descendants of the composer. In his ITG articles he provides a convenient one-page summary of his work that is intended for program notes to performances of these pieces.

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mbeastep wrote:According to Andre Smith, who in the 1990s published several articles on Ewald in the ITG Journal, the quintet that is called number four was actually Ewald's first work for brass. Inspired by the performances of the touring J. B. Arban, Ewald wrote music that turned out to be too difficult for him and his friends to play. In order not to waste his efforts, he arranged the piece for string quartet and went on to write his other brass quintets with more realistic demands.
Thank you for the clarification.

Is the edition called the No. 4 an urtext rendering, or was it reverse-engineered from the Opus 1 string quartet? From what I've seen, the latter seems to be the case (i.e. arranged from the string quartet by someone else).
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BVD Press wrote:
Scott C wrote: There are some new arrangements from Craig Gardner that are awesome: Ancient Airs and Dances, Resphigi;
In case anyone is looking for Craig's charts, the last name is actually "Garner". Thy are very solid and interesting pieces! Warning a plug here: And available at http://bvdpress.com/ along with almost all of the other charts listed in the thread.
Craig's arrangements are FANTASTIC!! We have performed these three works of his numerous times with GREAT feedback:
Respighi- Ancient Aires & Dances
Dvorak- Symphony No. 8
Mahler- Agagietto from Symphony No. 5
*we just performed the Mahler at Tanglewood & the ABQ Seminar...it's GREAT!! We should have a clip of it on our website soon.

Kevin Young also mentioned Patrice Caratini's "Passages." We came across this work at the Lyon competition a few years back...FUN! Caratini is a jazz bassist in France, and this piece really grooves! jobey
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mbeastep wrote:According to Andre Smith, who in the 1990s published several articles on Ewald in the ITG Journal, the quintet that is called number four was actually Ewald's first work for brass. Inspired by the performances of the touring J. B. Arban, Ewald wrote music that turned out to be too difficult for him and his friends to play. In order not to waste his efforts, he arranged the piece for string quartet and went on to write his other brass quintets with more realistic demands.
This has never really made any sense to me. Ewald took a Brass Quintet and made it into a String Quartet, but there are no remaining original copies of the Brass Quintet version.

We know there are 3 Ewald Quintets, but I don't agree that the fourth was ever a Brass Quintet.
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After trying to find parts for the Ewald String quartet Op. 1, I finally bit the bullet and transcribed them myself. I've had it performed by a local (amateur) string quartet and it's very nice--and makes very effective use of the strings--and it employs a few string tricks that don't work on brass.

That's why I share Bryan's skepticism that it was ever a brass quintet--or at least the version that we know is fairly distant from the original brass work, if there ever was one.
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We've been talking about picking up Andresen's "Three Norwegian Dances". Has a nice tuba solo, but requires the other players to stamp their feet and clap in time...
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My Spirit Be Joyful -- great tuba part

Salvation Is Created -- lovely transcription of a choral piece

(I'd tell you the publisher, but I loaned my quintet book to a sub.)

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I've always wanted to do a Brass Quintet program of all transcriptions of music originally written for Orchestra and Symphonic Band / Wind Ensemble, and not just 18 marches either. However, your trumpets need to be horses to pull that off and you'd probably need to have at least a couple of pieces arranged for quintet, but I think that would be an interesting program.
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kingrob76 wrote:I've always wanted to do a Brass Quintet program of all transcriptions of music originally written for Orchestra and Symphonic Band / Wind Ensemble, and not just 18 marches either. However, your trumpets need to be horses to pull that off and you'd probably need to have at least a couple of pieces arranged for quintet, but I think that would be an interesting program.
As mentioned before, Craig Garner has some very cool charts but in addition check out the charts from TBQ Press. If your trumpets can handle it, they have a very cool version of Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet.
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