euph fingering for high E

mceuph · Post by **mceuph** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:04 pm

Looking for a good fingering for high E (8va above E above the staff). Playing a Hirsbrunner euph. Thanks in advance!

Martin Cochran

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OldsRecording · Post by **OldsRecording** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:14 pm

If the note is sharp, try 2&4. That always seems to work for me.

dwerden · Post by **dwerden** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:09 pm

[Edited because my brain was stuck in treble clef when I first answered this!!]
It depends on the instrument, but I usually have good luck with 2. There are other options, depending on the tendencies of your instrument and mouthpiece. In theory, you can raise the pitch with 123 and lower it with 23.

mceuph · Post by **mceuph** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:29 pm

Thanks all! Good to meet you this summer Dave!

kalishdude · Post by **kalishdude** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:42 am

you might just be able to play it open, most notes above the high B flat can be play open, I'm not sure specifically about the E though. Since pretty much any combination works up there, try playing it open, then if its very sharp which it probably will be, add some valve combinations that were suggested above and see if it brings it down

TonyZ · Post by **TonyZ** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:12 pm

Use all 4 valves, slightly lift your right leg, and recite a short prayer...

mceuph · Post by **mceuph** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:20 pm

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:33 pm

TonyZ wrote:Use all 4 valves, slightly lift your right leg, and recite a short prayer...

And be careful where you hold the bell!

zeign7 · Post by **zeign7** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:23 pm

2nd valve works for me, just like the one an octave below. I'd avoid playing E natural open if I could since the F above it is also open, although I do play both Bb and C open.

dwerden · Post by **dwerden** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:02 am

I modified my original post (see above) because I had just answered a private message for someone else that was speaking in treble clef, so my head could not get into concert pitch.

This is getting into the range where you really need to have lots of air behind your efforts. I think on every horn I've had, 2nd valve worked the best for high E concert. I have a brief article about building high range on my forum:
http://www.dwerden.com/talk/forum/messa ... erthread=y

The technique discussed is one I learned from Rich Matteson, who had a very impressive high register. I think that if you work on that technique for a while, the high E will begin to slot for you.

Also, your mouthpiece can work against you a bit. If it is too deep or wide it can make the high register "looser". But I'm not sure you can't overcome that with most common mouthpieces (unless you are using a big bass trombone mouthpiece).