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For those with DEG stands and similar types, the only way to make them workable forever (or close to forever) is to forget about the hand adjustment setup and drill several holes in the moving saddle pole, about an inch apart, one through the body of the stand that lines up with the holes, and use a nut and bolt to hold the works together. You don't need any tools to make it work and don't have to worry about the threads stripping on the "thumbscrew" arrangement. The holes I drilled in mine (4) are about an inch apart and work well in about any situation you may find yourself in. (I hope the pic works.)[img]/Users/robertcalkins/Pictures/iPhoto%20Library/2007/08/13/DSC01186.JPG[/img]
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I've never submitted a post with a picture as part of it. How is this done? I inserted an img tag, copied the pic from my iPhoto Library and pasted it in after the tag, but no image. HELP!
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Hi Greg, I couldn't get an image to post, so if you would like to see apic of my stewart stand, pm me with your email address and i will be glad to send you some pix.
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Robert N. Calkins wrote:I've never submitted a post with a picture as part of it. How is this done? I inserted an img tag, copied the pic from my iPhoto Library and pasted it in after the tag, but no image. HELP!
WakinAZ wrote:1. Sign up for a free account at a photo hosting site like www.photobucket.com

2. Upload the pictures from your PC to that online site. Pictures will be stored on their server and then accessible anywhere on the web.

3. After the upload is complete, view the photo you wish to post here. Right-click on the picture and then select Properties. Copy the Address (URL).

4. On this forum, Write in your post the following:

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([img]and[/img] can be manually typed or inserted using the buttons at the top of the compose/reply window)

5. THEN, before you SUBMIT your post, be sure to PREVIEW it first. You should see the image. If not, double check your code.

* http://photobucket.com works well and has a one-click link to copy a link for forums and messageboards so you don't have to do the Properties>copy the link thing outlined in the above. You just have to paste the link you just copied into your message.

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WakinAZ wrote:
Robert N. Calkins wrote:I've never submitted a post with a picture as part of it. How is this done? I inserted an img tag, copied the pic from my iPhoto Library and pasted it in after the tag, but no image. HELP!
WakinAZ wrote:1. Sign up for a free account at a photo hosting site like www.photobucket.com

2. Upload the pictures from your PC to that online site. Pictures will be stored on their server and then accessible anywhere on the web.

3. After the upload is complete, view the photo you wish to post here. Right-click on the picture and then select Properties. Copy the Address (URL).

4. On this forum, Write in your post the following:

Code:
[img].....paste%20the%20URL%20address%20here.....[/img]

([img]and[/img] can be manually typed or inserted using the buttons at the top of the compose/reply window)

5. THEN, before you SUBMIT your post, be sure to PREVIEW it first. You should see the image. If not, double check your code.

* http://photobucket.com works well and has a one-click link to copy a link for forums and messageboards so you don't have to do the Properties>copy the link thing outlined in the above. You just have to paste the link you just copied into your message.

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i think i figured it out now. I was copying the wrong address and it kept going tot he photobucket home page. so if you go back to page two you can see some of my pix.

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Robert N. Calkins wrote:I've never submitted a post with a picture as part of it. How is this done? I inserted an img tag, copied the pic from my iPhoto Library and pasted it in after the tag, but no image. HELP!
You have to host the picture somewhere on the web, and what you put between the image tags is the URL to the picture.

Like this
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but with square brackets.

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bloke wrote:Thank-you Rick.

I really never understood how those tuba playing stands work, but now (of course, how silly of me) I see that TWO are required...

...one for each cheek, obviously...

...Did you have to special order the DD cup size?
You'll notice that the left cheek is a bit larger than the right, and that it sags a bit lower.

Okay, now you've had your fun. Get back to work on my tuba.

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I have never liked using a playing stand. I have just found horns on which the leadpipe is a comfortable height when the horn is on my lap. Even so, my King 1291 is so heavy that my legs would fall asleep after half an hour or so of resting it on my lap. They must have made the thing aout of the heaviest sheets of brass that they could find in the 1930s.

I bought a K&M stand to use with that horn and although still prefer not using a stand, the K&M works very well for me. The BBC stand was not available when I bought the K&M, but I'm not sure I would prefer it. For me the K&M is at the perfect height at its lowest setting, so I never have to worry about it slipping lower. The BBC is more compact for travel, but sits a little lower, so would have to be raised up a little to be a good height.

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Doesn't Gene P. in Chicago use the DEG stand?
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John Caves wrote:Doesn't Gene P. in Chicago use the DEG stand?
Yes, he does. And he also recommends the use of stands highly.

A lot of folks think the stands are geeky or just one thing too much to schlep. Fine. While they are performing those isometric exercises with their shoulders and legs to keep the tuba in position, I'm resting my tuba on something sturdy and have the opportunity to relax.

I normally play my F tubas without a stand, but I will never rest the tuba on the chair, and my Bb tubas require that. The leadpipes would have to be contorted significantly to get the mouthpiece to my lips on those tubas, with the tuba resting in my lap. Or, I would drop the bottom bow between my knees, and hold the tuba there by flexing my hip muscles. No, thanks. The F tubas will sit on my lap without that.

There is also the matter of acoustic damping. When resting firmly on the floor, the tuba is less able to vibrate against that damped body surface. It makes a huge difference with 'cellos and basses, and Gene insisted that it mattered also with tubas, but I could not tell the difference out in the hall when he demonstrated it. Clearly, he could tell the difference from where he was sitting.

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Sometimes,playing in a trio or quartet, I need to play guitar or bass so I need to slide my chair to the left 6 inches and pull the guitar or bass off it's stand and across my lap and get to my vocal mike,quickly. Sometimes we don't take breaks and leave one of us with a guitar onstage while the rest of us hit the head and swing by the bar for a cold one.
I need a stand to fully support my tuba in wind or whatever. I got a looks-like-new Tubatamer yesterday from way cool fellow tubenetter tbn.al that may be the answer. I might play tuba standing up if the Tubatamer was on a box or riser. That sucker sure is heavy.
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Well, for schlepping, how about someone design and market a bell bag? I mean a well-padded bag designed to go in the bell and carry stuff, any stuff that you can reasonably get in it.

I've got one of those five-legged trumpet stands that unscrews and goes right in the bell for schlepping, and it's great. It weighs a ton but since it disappears down the bell it doesn't matter what case/bag you are using. A tuba bell bag seems like a device someone could make some $$ off of. It would come in sizes, just like tubas do.

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I have had a Tubassist for about 8 months now and have LOVED every second of it. It is VERY adjustable and has a nice, large curved platform to set your horn on. It is also very sturdy ... when you set it to a position, it stays there until you decide to chance it.
I got mine soon after I started to develop a herniated disk in my back. It had not really hit yet, but I was experiencing quite a bit of pain from practicing the old fashioned way of holding my horn on my legs. So, upon getting my Tubassist, I was not only freed me up physically so that I could focus more on my playing, it also ALLOWED me to keep playing regardless of what my stinkin' back says.
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I haven't read all the posts, but here's my 2 cents...pardon me if it's redundant.

I had similar problems with the DEG stand and the stripped bolt. After shelling out cash for another one (which also soon busted), I decided to take the cradle from the DEG (which I really like) and placed it on a drum throne stand. I figured if a drum throne can hold up a 250-pound drummer, it will have no problem holding my tuba.

Here's the thing...that drum throne was about 1/4th the price of those dang DEG stands!! I have ordered extra pads from DEG, so I assume you could buy a cradle separately as well. I have had no issues for the past 3 years.
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Let me also add that I used to carry the stand in a trumpet gig bag (one was given to me), and I always take my own chair to auditions…got tired of resetting the stand to coincide with the many different chairs out there. It is a pain, but I don’t want to worry about tuba placement when I need to focus on other things…one less variable in the audition process!
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Greg wrote:
I am getting interested in the tubassist....I looks as if it is dependent upon both body weight and two hooks that attach to the back of a chair. Will if work in a chair that does not have an open seat back?
The Tubassist has one front hook but the rear (and very necessary) attachment is with a strap using hook and loop material. You do not need an open back chair to use it. Just route the strap around the back or around one or both of the legs.
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Drbuzzz wrote:

Here's the thing...that drum throne was about 1/4th the price of those dang DEG stands!! I have ordered extra pads from DEG, so I assume you could buy a cradle separately as well. I have had no issues for the past 3 years.
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I hate to thread jack, but how do you guys that use stands deal with the feeling of being disconnected from the instrument? I have tried using a stand, and feel like it could benefit my playing, but I just can't get used to the feeling of not being close to my tuba. (if that makes any sense at all.)
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adam0408 wrote:I hate to thread jack, but how do you guys that use stands deal with the feeling of being disconnected from the instrument? I have tried using a stand, and feel like it could benefit my playing, but I just can't get used to the feeling of not being close to my tuba. (if that makes any sense at all.)
Gain about 30 pounds. Then it won't be a problem.

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