Abe Torchinsky's Orchestral Excerpt Books

BavarianFanfare · Post by **BavarianFanfare** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:29 am

I was recently checking out these volumes that Encore Music Publishers offers. However, I noticed there are quite a few missing. The website indicates that volumes five through fifteen are available through other publishers. It doesn't say who carries these other volumes. Does anyone know who publishes these other volumes? Thank you.

LoyalTubist · Post by **LoyalTubist** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 3:02 am

One or more books is out of print due to copyright issues.

These are NOT excerpt books. They are the entire part for their respective works. (Someone should have come up with this idea long before this came out!) If you can't get it from Encore Music, the others can be had from Robert King. For the books that are missing, someone here might be able to help you.

BVD Press · Post by **BVD Press** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:41 am

http://www.musicassociatesofamerica.com ... erona.html

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:29 pm

tubashaman wrote:If your having problems with finding those books, and you know a trombone player, I would buy the Cherry Classics CD

You should buy the Cherry CD. But, you should also buy the Torchinsky books as finances permit. The Cherry CD does have all the low brass parts. The Torchinsky books only have the tuba parts. The value of the Torchinsky books are the comments that Abe Torchinsky has written for each part.

Volume 14, Shostakovich Symphonies 1 - 7, and Volume 15, Shostakovich Symphonies 8 - 12, are out of print.

Mojo workin' · Post by **Mojo workin'** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:08 pm

The value of the Torchinsky books are the comments that Abe Torchinsky has written for each part

Even so, I vote for the Cherry cd. The cost is far more reasonable for what you get. And you'll need to study the score anyhow if preparing for an audition, so you'll make most of the same observations that Abe made in doing so.

windshieldbug · Post by **windshieldbug** » Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:11 pm

Mojo workin' wrote:you'll need to study the score anyhow if preparing for an audition, so you'll make most of the same observations that Abe made in doing so.

Not necessarily. Mr Torchinsky's comments came from the point of having years of experience playing these works, not just reviewing them well. As a student freshly out of school in my first gig, I found that going back to his comments before I had to perform these works uniformly invaluable.

winston · Post by **winston** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:20 pm

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:05 pm

tubashaman wrote:Then how do I legitally get a copy of Stoshty and Prokoviev (i have the 5th)

You suck up to someone who owns it and try to get in their will.

Or, if someone stupidly sells their copy, you buy it.

Those are the only legal methods.

More comparison with the Cherry CD: As was mentioned, the Cherry CD includes only those works that are clearly in the public domain. Thus, they only have works published before 1923. The Torchinsky books have many, many works published after that date, including all of Prokofiev. Much of what is in the "20th Century Excerpts" book was published after that date, too.

Rick "who has nearly all of them, including the Shosty books and the 20th-Century Excerpts" Denney

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:06 pm

the elephant wrote:I do not have the two Shostakovitch volumes. I only have 1 â€“ 13 and was not aware that there are more after the two discontinued Shosty ones. Who do they cover?

16 is Mahler, Symphonies 7-9, which he didn't include in the original Mahler volume because of copyright issues. Dunno about 17. I have Volumes 1-15 except 4 and 7. 4 is Richard Strauss, and I wouldn't mind having that one (Encore publishes that one). 7 is the less interesting (to me) Tchaikovsky orchestra works, and it's all on the Cherry CD if I ever need it.

Since I don't play in an orchestra and probably never will, these are primarily for my own entertainment, and for playing along with CD's. I bought the ones that interested me at the time. I had to pay real money for the two Shostakovich volumes--I like that stuff and wanted them badly.

My volumes 1 and 2 still say "European-American Publishing Company" on them, which were taken over by Encore. Encore didn't take over volumes 5-13, which were published by Jerona. My Shosty volumes were published by Encore, who may have been the original publisher--I don't recall. They were pulled from publication when the U.S. and Russia normalized their copyright treaties.

Rick "who hasn't counted his volumes up until now" Denney