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Casey Nidetch wrote:I'm a senior in high school looking for the best college major for me. I love playing tuba and have always wanted to be a performer. I think that I would love a performance career and would love to spend my days playing, but I know how difficult it is to get a job. I also think that I would love to teach music in schools, but I don't want to regret not going for a performance career. What made you decide to go for a performance or education degree? Do you regret anything?
College is an important part of becoming an educated person, which will benefit you in many ways beyond any professional benefits. If you expect college to provide you with a profession, then you may be disappointed no matter what your major course of study. I would recommend studying what interests you enough to motivate total commitment. Consider these points:

1. To rephrase something Dr. Sloan rightly says, if you are willing to live, eat, and breathe the subject you choose, then you will likely get so good at it that someone will be willing to pay you to do it. Even playing the tuba--but you have to broaden your perspective beyond sitting in an orchestra. You should also recognize that this is not the path to riches, and if you want riches, study finance and spend your days thinking about money. Prepare to be unhappy, unless that subject really moves you. But anything less than absolute and total commitment will not be enough to succeed, even in professions that pay mediocre workers well.

2. Talent is required in musical performance, and some don't have enough of it. The motivation to work as hard as the comment above implies is probably a sign of talent. But recognize that you must accept nothing less than superior excellence, putting in the work that it takes to achieve that. I love playing the tuba, and I love thinking about it. But I don't believe I could do it 8+ hours a day without it driving me mad, and I do not have the discipline to work on fundamentals until I perfect them. Clearly, I'm not qualified to pursue it as a career. I may be reacting to my own limited talent--whatever. You'll know pretty quickly if that motivate drains you. The top performers are energized by that focus and drive, not drained (at least most of the time). Keep that in mind.

3. People who are well-educated and willing to work hard seem to find a way to make a decent living for themselves, no matter how disconnected their work turns out to be from their major course of study.

4. If you really want a performance career, and if you really want to be trained to do that job instead of becoming generally educated, then move to a city where there are great tuba performers willing to teach you and plenty of opportunities to perform, and focus on that. If that doesn't sound right to you, then reread Items 1-3.

5. Don't use music education as a "backup". If you love to teach and love the idea of teaching, then go for it. (You also need a high tolerance for BS and an even-keeled personality.) That path takes commitment and motivation to be successful just as much as performing.

6. Go back and reread Item 1-3. Study what interests you to the point where you are willing to do it with a high level of commitment, and you'll do fine. The high level of commitment is the key.

7. If the major course of study you choose falls apart on you in the first couple of years of college, then you have your answer concerning interest, talent and aptitude. Change course. I switched from architecture, which had driven me since early childhood, to engineering, when I realized that what I really wanted was to design things in the three-dimensional world. It turned out that architecture was more about air and sales than about designing things.

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Look at the actual classes you would take at each school. Often times, the classes that benefit your playing the most are required for both performance and education degrees. In most cases, you will still be studying with the same professor, participating in the same ensembles, performing the same rep, studying the same excerpts, etc. Music Education degrees, however, usually involve more classes and a larger time commitment than performance ones. Of course, it varies for each school.

Something to consider- Degrees do not mean anything to audition panels.
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Here's something I've noticed and like to say to people concerning college majors, which I would like to submit to the scrutiny of the TNFJ for review.

How many people do you know who actually use their college majors in their jobs?

The History majors probably aren't. The philosophy majors definitely aren't. Probably about half the English majors aren't. Need I continue?

Lots of friends I talk to say they would love to major in music, but aren't going to because they aren't sure they'd be able to get a performing job. To which I say, "what's your point?" Usually followed by the question above. Hope that helps.
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Total agree with everything that is said. My Dad didn't see music as a viable profession and basically wouldn't approve of me going to school for Music. So I went into Engineering, and failed miserably because I had little interest. Switched to second viable major of business and it was worse than Engineering, god I hated it. And failed miserably at it. Finally I said screw you Dad I'm going to do what I love and entered the school of music. Wow, what a difference, I was very successful and got my degree in performance. Started out making my living as a musician but as fate would have it, I'm now a computer programmer. If I could still play, I'd be playing for a living, but I can't.

As far as performance or education. They are very similar in classes and playing. You can be a very performance oriented education major. You can always pursue a performance profession with an education degree, but you can't pursue an education profession with a performance degree. A good friend of mine is the principle horn in the Navy band and his bacholer's degree is in Education and his masters is in Musicology. He makes his living as a performer. Just saying.
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Casey Nidetch wrote:What made you decide to go for a performance or education degree? Do you regret anything?

A music performance degree, especially an undergrad, is very nearly useless. At least a music education degree means something, and can be used to gain a state certification to teach.

A performance major cannot be certified to teach.

A music education major can.

Either can play. Either can win a playing gig, or make up their own and market it. I see the music ed degree as inherently more valuable (and I have yet to "use" my degree--at least, I have never been certified to teach).

I do believe the value of a performance degree changes later on, in graduate studies. (Truthfully, not so much the performance degree itself, but the value of the time and energy achieving it--that can pay off)
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