girl-next-door (from Bulgaria?) horn-porn + repair tip
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Re: girl-next-door (from Bulgaria?) horn-porn + repair tip
Small wonder that you like this one, as it is not a Weltklang, but a B&S. Parts were shared among these lines, especially bells and branches, but there may have been a selection between parts with the better ones going to the B&S instruments. And then these were assembled by he fully trained craftsmen, 12 years of training.
Aside from spacecrafts, the GDR was the tech leader of the Warsaw Pact. They also were challenged to keep their population at home, as the Western variant of Germany was more appealing. One action to keep workers happy was to give generous vacation facilities. partially at their own Baltic coast, partially at the coast of the Black Sea in Romania and especially in Bulgaria (I saw the abandoned GDR-resorts, when I was there in 1993).
Part of the GDR payment was in high end musical instruments for the East-Balkan orchestras like horns and tubas. But the East Germans didn’t trust the Romanians and Bulgarians. They feared that these fine brasses would be dumped at Western markets and there compete with the GDR’s own exports. So the GDR marked pro-level instruments as if they were student grade.
The give away on this tuba is the radial entry into the 1st rotor and exit from the 4th rotor.
I surely hope that some Memphibian high school student will appreciate such fine instrument and take good care of it.
Klaus
Aside from spacecrafts, the GDR was the tech leader of the Warsaw Pact. They also were challenged to keep their population at home, as the Western variant of Germany was more appealing. One action to keep workers happy was to give generous vacation facilities. partially at their own Baltic coast, partially at the coast of the Black Sea in Romania and especially in Bulgaria (I saw the abandoned GDR-resorts, when I was there in 1993).
Part of the GDR payment was in high end musical instruments for the East-Balkan orchestras like horns and tubas. But the East Germans didn’t trust the Romanians and Bulgarians. They feared that these fine brasses would be dumped at Western markets and there compete with the GDR’s own exports. So the GDR marked pro-level instruments as if they were student grade.
The give away on this tuba is the radial entry into the 1st rotor and exit from the 4th rotor.
I surely hope that some Memphibian high school student will appreciate such fine instrument and take good care of it.
Klaus
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Re: girl-next-door (from Bulgaria?) horn-porn + repair tip
looks fantastic!
I think that there's still a lot of life left in quite a few of those ebay specials.
I think that there's still a lot of life left in quite a few of those ebay specials.
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Re: girl-next-door (from Bulgaria?) horn-porn + repair tip
That horn looks just like the Gerhard Schneider tuba I played my senior year in high school . . . fond memories of that particular horn.
Excellent! I'm sure someone will be very happy!
Excellent! I'm sure someone will be very happy!
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Gerhard Schneider was one of the brand names used by B&S to circumvent their own contracts with exclusive dealers in Western countries. Dealer A sold the B&S instruments in a market he thought was his own. If dealer B showed an interest, B&S provided him Gerhard Schneider instruments.jonesbrass wrote:That horn looks just like the Gerhard Schneider tuba I played my senior year in high school . . . fond memories of that particular horn.
Excellent! I'm sure someone will be very happy!
Hoyer horns used to be part of B&S, maybe still are. Gottfried in Copenhagen had the exclusive rights for Hoyer horns in Denmark. Copenhagen Brass Centre wanted to present GDR horns when they opened in 1985. They got a marvellous 5 valve single Bb Hoyer horn, only it was engraved B&S, which is/was very unusual for horns. Nobody wanted it due to that engraving, so somebody got it at a moderate price. It is still with me.
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Re: girl-next-door (from Bulgaria?) horn-porn + repair tip
Yup! I've seen that same hardware on many different brands (names) of European tubas. A couple of weeks ago I had a Wilhelm Monke tuba here that bore the same characteristics. Doing a little investigating (Wm. Monke is/was in Koln, Germany) with the help of our own 'belltrouble' I became even more aware that many of these 'name brands' of horns are actually composites from parts acquired from others. Other names that have 'popped up' from time-to-time are Sonora and Carl Wunderlich. There are still loads of these horns lurking in high school 'back rooms'... that were sold to US schools in the 60's and 70's. Most of these horns I've seen are good players. Many of these horns are B & S-ish in appearance mainly because of the characteristic shape of the attachment backing plates. Heck... B & S may have purchased their harness loops and thumbrings from the same place.bloke wrote:yes...' identical to the Schneider, except this instrument is made of very slightly heavier material than most of the Schneider tubas.jonesbrass wrote:That horn looks just like the Gerhard Schneider tuba I played my senior year in high school . . . fond memories of that particular horn.
Excellent! I'm sure someone will be very happy!
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Finally a tuba used for the enlightenment of the human species.Belltrouble wrote:people may have patience with me,but I found something on our german ebay-branch,
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 0291308144" target="_blank" target="_blank
is it possible that he tuned tuba in the pics is a similar one to the Bloke recreated???
It´s unfortunately only poor pics there............
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Ha! The common derogatory comment to a bad horn when I was in school was, "Make a lamp out of it!" A friend of mine said that so often I actually went to a pawn shop, bought a cheap trumpet, and did exactly that. He still has it. I only drilled one small hole in main tuning slide, so a small repair and the horn would actually be playable, if you could call it that!
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Looks like a "Major Award" was won by someone....Belltrouble wrote:people may have patience with me,but I found something on our german ebay-branch,
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 0291308144" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
is it possible that he tuned tuba in the pics is a similar one to the Bloke recreated???
It´s unfortunately only poor pics there............
Kurt
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Re: girl-next-door (from Bulgaria?) horn-porn + repair tip
Hey, Joe...
Need any parts for that Echlin cabinet in the corner?
Todd, wondering
Need any parts for that Echlin cabinet in the corner?
Todd, wondering
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For the sake of the future player I hope you took a shower between these two tasks.bloke wrote:After a delightful afternoon (pumping out my septic tank to protect fill-lines - due to an extremely rainy season here), my reward was to then cover myself in delicious red waxy powder while polishing this tuba. OK. It's done.
Kind of pitty this fine instrument goes to a school. Hopefully it will be takeb well care of.
Klaus
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Glad to hear it, but saddened to hear you paid that much for it. Around here, they are an easy "curb find."bloke wrote:I believe it is completely intact, including the Plexiglas covers for the upper doors' interior shelves...Maybe (??) the magnetic strips are missing from those, but that's probably the only thing(s) missing on the entire old "NAPA" cabinet.
bloke "who bought it quite a few years ago for c. $100 one evening at a shabby auction house about a block away from my old storefront in Memphis"
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tofu wrote:But where are the Bulgarian girl pictures Joe?
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Re: girl-next-door (from Bulgaria?) horn-porn + repair tip
where's her tuba?
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You want the anatomy in details?rocksanddirt wrote:where's her tuba?
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Re: girl-next-door (from Bulgaria?) horn-porn + repair tip
bump, so it's easier to find this post tomorrow morning. I need to show it to someone for the repair tip.
I think I might end up as a grumpy old man when I get old...