only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
- tokuno
- 3 valves

- Posts: 270
- Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:51 am
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
I outfitted my sousaphone with solar panels, so I received an additional carbon allowance for a total volume increase of 60 liters per minute, but the closed circuit rebreather I'm installing on all my horns with its included CO2 scrubber totally eliminates my restriction. I'm having a little trouble with the acoustic properties of my horns, though. It's probably my mouthpiece. 
- Tubaryan12
- 6 valves

- Posts: 2106
- Joined: Sat Nov 13, 2004 7:49 am
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
Don't forget, as a tuba player, you must also account for your methane emissions as well. 
- Alex C
- pro musician

- Posts: 2225
- Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:34 am
- Location: Cybertexas
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
Actually, I think this was addressed last year on ebay. Someone was selling a carbon emissions certificate for practice. Obviously, an idea whose time has come considering the topic of your post. Let's all join hands for a chorus of "Kum Ba Ya," shall we?
I'd say more but I need to go back and practice "Fountains" another dozen more times.
Hold the presses, I'm editing the post because I found it:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21224&p=177478&hili ... te#p177478" target="_blank" target="_blank
here's the Tubenet reference and, lo and behold, it's posted by none other than bloke.
I'd say more but I need to go back and practice "Fountains" another dozen more times.
Hold the presses, I'm editing the post because I found it:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21224&p=177478&hili ... te#p177478" target="_blank" target="_blank
here's the Tubenet reference and, lo and behold, it's posted by none other than bloke.
City Intonation Inspector - Dallas Texas
"Holding the Bordognian Fabric of the Universe together through better pitch, one note at a time."
Practicing results in increased atmospheric CO2 thus causing global warming.
"Holding the Bordognian Fabric of the Universe together through better pitch, one note at a time."
Practicing results in increased atmospheric CO2 thus causing global warming.
- Alex C
- pro musician

- Posts: 2225
- Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:34 am
- Location: Cybertexas
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
Hold on, hold on. That's not the way it works:
A car with poor mileage gets hit with a penalty tax e.g., a Hummer; a car like the Prius gets a tax credit. ERGO: players with inefficient use of air should pay the penalty. The efficient players should actually get money from the government.
Or maybe it should be like in Oregon where they are considering a "per mile" tax on cars, as if a gas tax isn't a "per mile" tax. Tuba players who play more notes would leave a bigger footprint no matter how efficient/inefficient they are. In that case, a band tubist would pay a higher carbon tax than an orchestral tubist (can anyone say "New World Symphony?").
A car with poor mileage gets hit with a penalty tax e.g., a Hummer; a car like the Prius gets a tax credit. ERGO: players with inefficient use of air should pay the penalty. The efficient players should actually get money from the government.
Or maybe it should be like in Oregon where they are considering a "per mile" tax on cars, as if a gas tax isn't a "per mile" tax. Tuba players who play more notes would leave a bigger footprint no matter how efficient/inefficient they are. In that case, a band tubist would pay a higher carbon tax than an orchestral tubist (can anyone say "New World Symphony?").
City Intonation Inspector - Dallas Texas
"Holding the Bordognian Fabric of the Universe together through better pitch, one note at a time."
Practicing results in increased atmospheric CO2 thus causing global warming.
"Holding the Bordognian Fabric of the Universe together through better pitch, one note at a time."
Practicing results in increased atmospheric CO2 thus causing global warming.
- sloan
- On Ice

- Posts: 1827
- Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:34 pm
- Location: Nutley, NJ
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
Newly planted trees produce CO2 - so this doesn't help you at all.bloke wrote:
If I plant a hickernut tree, how many minutes may I play loud without paying a penalty?
MATURE trees help, so what you want to do is save mature trees that someone else wants to cut down. Planting new trees is no good.
Kenneth Sloan
- Todd S. Malicoate
- 6 valves

- Posts: 2378
- Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2004 11:12 pm
- Location: Tulsa, OK
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
And yet other studies will tell you that mature trees are already saturated with enough CO2 and unlikely to absorb much more.sloan wrote:Newly planted trees produce CO2 - so this doesn't help you at all.
MATURE trees help, so what you want to do is save mature trees that someone else wants to cut down. Planting new trees is no good.
Fascinating.
-
tbn.al
- 6 valves

- Posts: 3004
- Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:00 pm
- Location: Atlanta, Ga
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
It has taken some real digging but I have finally identified the section of the code that deals with the hickernut exemption. You are allowed exactly the number of minutes you spend cracking and meating the hickernuts, but only the ones that you send to your tubanet friends.bloke wrote: If I plant a hickernut tree, how many minutes may I play loud without paying a penalty?
I am fortunate to have a great job that feeds my family well, but music feeds my soul.
- imperialbari
- 6 valves

- Posts: 7461
- Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:47 am
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
I get bloke’s concerns, but isn’t it so in your country also, that you are compensated, if you store a considerable amount of solid CO2 (which would give that cool feel also)?
I guess that Pachy would be in the know.
K
I guess that Pachy would be in the know.
K
- sloan
- On Ice

- Posts: 1827
- Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:34 pm
- Location: Nutley, NJ
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
No, I didn't.bloke wrote:sloan wrote: And yet other studies will tell you that mature trees are already saturated with enough CO2...
Kenneth Sloan
- The Jackson
- 5 valves

- Posts: 1652
- Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2007 9:34 pm
- Location: Miami, FL
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
And is not the usual follow-up to loud playing C2H6O?
- Toad Away
- bugler

- Posts: 198
- Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:33 pm
- Location: San Antonio
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
I am so confused:
Since retiring I seem to play a lot less on my tuba.
But since moving to San Antonio I seem to consume
a LOT more Mexican food.
Pleeeze Al Gore, tell me what to do
Since retiring I seem to play a lot less on my tuba.
But since moving to San Antonio I seem to consume
a LOT more Mexican food.
Pleeeze Al Gore, tell me what to do
___________________________________
___________________________________

___________________________________

- ken k
- 6 valves

- Posts: 2372
- Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:02 pm
- Location: out standing in my field....
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
Must we not also figure in how much CO2 was used in the production of our horns? Would that mean that the manufacture of a 5 valved BAT would create a larger carbon footprint than say a three valved 3/4 sized horn (much less raw material and time in manufacture)? Or what if i buy my horn used? or buy a horn that was reconditioned and spared from the land fill?
There is more to being green than simple carbon emissions. I drive a 10 year old car that gets 30 mpg. I figure I am keeping over a ton of metal and plastic out of a junk yard. That should count for something right? i also play a 35 year tuba and a 90 year old helicon.
on the other hand i guess I am not helping the national economy by not buying new cars and new tubas, although i am keeping my local mechanic and horn repairer in business!
k
There is more to being green than simple carbon emissions. I drive a 10 year old car that gets 30 mpg. I figure I am keeping over a ton of metal and plastic out of a junk yard. That should count for something right? i also play a 35 year tuba and a 90 year old helicon.
on the other hand i guess I am not helping the national economy by not buying new cars and new tubas, although i am keeping my local mechanic and horn repairer in business!
k
B&H imperial E flat tuba
Mirafone 187 BBb
1919 Pan American BBb Helicon
1924 Buescher BBb tuba (Dr. Suessaphone)
2009 Mazda Miata
1996 Honda Pacific Coast PC800
Mirafone 187 BBb
1919 Pan American BBb Helicon
1924 Buescher BBb tuba (Dr. Suessaphone)
2009 Mazda Miata
1996 Honda Pacific Coast PC800
- ken k
- 6 valves

- Posts: 2372
- Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:02 pm
- Location: out standing in my field....
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
this whole discussion is full of hot air....
ffffffff!!!!!!!
B&H imperial E flat tuba
Mirafone 187 BBb
1919 Pan American BBb Helicon
1924 Buescher BBb tuba (Dr. Suessaphone)
2009 Mazda Miata
1996 Honda Pacific Coast PC800
Mirafone 187 BBb
1919 Pan American BBb Helicon
1924 Buescher BBb tuba (Dr. Suessaphone)
2009 Mazda Miata
1996 Honda Pacific Coast PC800
- ken k
- 6 valves

- Posts: 2372
- Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:02 pm
- Location: out standing in my field....
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
besides if you play too loudly the musicians union has to worry about OSHA regulations and safe sound volume levels...
k
k
B&H imperial E flat tuba
Mirafone 187 BBb
1919 Pan American BBb Helicon
1924 Buescher BBb tuba (Dr. Suessaphone)
2009 Mazda Miata
1996 Honda Pacific Coast PC800
Mirafone 187 BBb
1919 Pan American BBb Helicon
1924 Buescher BBb tuba (Dr. Suessaphone)
2009 Mazda Miata
1996 Honda Pacific Coast PC800
- imperialbari
- 6 valves

- Posts: 7461
- Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:47 am
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
What about the N2O emissions?Tubaryan12 wrote:Don't forget, as a tuba player, you must also account for your methane emissions as well.
- Kevin Hendrick
- 6 valves

- Posts: 3156
- Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:51 pm
- Location: Location: Location
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
"Crop dusting" on a massive scale! Impressssive ... mossst impressssive ...bloke wrote:When participating in a regional honor band (in the 11th grade...c. 1973) a 12th grade colleague of mine (trombone player, of course) suddenly felt the urge to do some CH4 broadcasting...the elephant wrote:I deal in large-scale distribution of CH4 so the exchange of O2 for CO2 holds little interest for me.
...so just before our band was about to play (when the "B" and "C" band kids were seated out in the audience) he walked quickly down the center aisle of the auditorium - releasing CH4 all the way down. As there were some ceiling fans in that auditorium that were all directly above the center aisle...and as that auditorium was jam-packed with parents/students (c. 2000 souls), that may have possibly been an unofficial world record for the number of people who were forced to share in the experience someone else's CH4 expulsion.
"Don't take life so serious, son. It ain't nohow permanent." -- Pogo (via Walt Kelly)
-
tubatooter1940
- 6 valves

- Posts: 2530
- Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:09 pm
- Location: alabama gulf coast
Re: only "soft" tuba playing now allowed - unless you pay
Since clean, breathable air is in short supply, the government should claim it and tax it - 5 cents for a normal breath - 10 cents a gasp.
As a lifelong blatt weasel fart horn operator, and old geezer methane producer, I'm gonna be broke almost immediately.
As a lifelong blatt weasel fart horn operator, and old geezer methane producer, I'm gonna be broke almost immediately.
We pronounce it Guf Coast