Thomann professional F tuba

[bort]

I may just out of interest drop in on Thomann and try one of these when I'm in Germany November. If, so I will report back on my impression.


Jonathan "who is quite happy with his PT-15"

Well, if it's gold brass, watch yourself...

[Wyvern]

Well, if it's gold brass, watch yourself...

Although not mentioned, it rather looks like it might be from the pictures!

[imperialbari]

Yes, an opinion on that disguised Nirschl F would be interesting. I haven’t found that model on the Nirschl site.

The price isn’t insanely high compared to the alleged production method: cut from sheet brass and bows bent with lead.

Maybe you should phone them to make sure one is available before taking that detour.

Klaus

[Wyvern]

Maybe you should phone them to make sure one is available before taking that detour.

That looks an nice shop to visit anyway! Some other interesting F to try include the JBL Classic and Mel Culbertson Apollo

[Wyvern]

Attention !! It looks more like an unlaquered prototype...................

Compare the finish pictured with the pics take by From Neptune whilst trying out his new instrument at Markneukirchen last week.............

It certainly looks unlacquered to me too. Similar color to my 'unfinished' PT-20. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=35651" target="_blank

Who knows about the manufacturer which does the special instruments for the austrian group named Mnozil Brass ??

Melton

[imperialbari]

Maybe you should phone them to make sure one is available before taking that detour.

That looks an nice shop to visit anyway! Some other interesting F to try include the JBL Classic and Mel Culbertson Apollo

Jonathan, due to faster logistics some stores put up a bigger window on the web, than their own storage room contents really may justify. If Thomann stored every tuba they market, they would be killed by interest payments.

I don’t think Thomann is worse than other, unnamed, retailers. Rather I think they count on their proximity to several major makers. Thomann is in norther Bavaria. And even if Bavaria is big for a German state, they will have no more than one day of delivery time from MW, Miraphone, B&S (Besson), Rudolf Meinl, and even Cerveny.

London’s Phil Parker is shop with a good name, and they are maybe on the conservative side in their marketing style. How many low brasses do they stock?

I still think a phone call may save you some disappointment. One likely reply will be that they sold that F the day before you phoned.

How do you go to the continent? Chunnel or ferry?

Klaus

[Wyvern]

I think it interesting to see quite a few tubas on Thomann website with 'available at short notice (usually 2-5 days)". I wonder from where they can get them that quickly? The major manufacturers are true, not far away - BUT I know from my visits to Melton and B&S that they keep NO STOCK at the factory. They only manufacture tubas in response to an order from dealer. I know from my own tuba ordering that the time from order to delivery can be anything from 3 to 9 months which leaves me puzzled about the Thomann claim?

For Phil Parker, from my visits I would say they have at best half dozen tubas in stock - usually less. But Mr.Tuba as a specialist must have a couple dozen of various models (although most not on display).

If I intend to visit Thomann, then I may well phone ahead. For crossing the Channel, I always use the tunnel as following an unfortunate experience as a child stranded mid-channel for 32 hours I have never liked the ferry!

Are you planning to come across to London for Tuba Carols this year Klaus?

[Wyvern]

Try being trapped in a tunnel in a traffic jam for a few hours.

Very unpleasant as well...

True! But at least one does not get sea-sick in a tunnel

[imperialbari]

I certainly would like to go to your Tuba Christmas in london already this year, but I don’t even know whether I will be able to read music off paper by then. My worst eye is planned to have a new lens primo November. But that eye has gone out of coordination with the other eye, so I reckon a lot of adjustment and relearning has to happen.

Klaus

PS: About 10 years ago I talked on the phone with Mr. McQueen of Manchester. His method of getting tubas fast was to go to the then still active Besson factory and fetch the samples that had been damaged during the production process. They were cheap enough to justify the work he then had to do.

[imperialbari]

Isn’t it so that cars are loaded on trains in the Chunnel? And if something happens they try to avoid stopping the train.

Klaus

[Wyvern]

Isn’t it so that cars are loaded on trains in the Chunnel? And if something happens they try to avoid stopping the train.

Yes, the car goes onto a train through the Chunnel. There is actually three interlinked tunnels. One for trains each direction and an emergency service tunnel. In case of incident passengers can evacuate train into service tunnel. I believe this has only happened on a couple of occasions.

[MartyNeilan]

I was thinking of the tunnels that go from Detroit to Windsor (under the Detroit river) and those tunnels that lead into Manhattan in NYC. I've been stuck in those in traffic jams as the result of accidents. When fatalities were involved, it was a long, exhaust filled, nauseating, claustrophobic wait.

"Yeah. You guys see those tiles up there, all those individual tiles?
Hey, Doc, isn't it true that if even one of those tiles were to come loose, millions and millions of gallons of water would come pouring down on us... and squash us like tiny little bugs?

Is that a leak up there?
You see those tiles?

They're leakin'.
Oh, my God!"

~Billy Caufield (Micheal Keaton), The Dream Team (1989)

[samulirask]

Maybe you should phone them to make sure one is available before taking that detour.

That looks an nice shop to visit anyway! Some other interesting F to try include the JBL Classic and Mel Culbertson Apollo

Jonathan, due to faster logistics some stores put up a bigger window on the web, than their own storage room contents really may justify. If Thomann stored every tuba they market, they would be killed by interest payments.

I don’t think Thomann is worse than other, unnamed, retailers. Rather I think they count on their proximity to several major makers. Thomann is in norther Bavaria. And even if Bavaria is big for a German state, they will have no more than one day of delivery time from MW, Miraphone, B&S (Besson), Rudolf Meinl, and even Cerveny.

London’s Phil Parker is shop with a good name, and they are maybe on the conservative side in their marketing style. How many low brasses do they stock?

I still think a phone call may save you some disappointment. One likely reply will be that they sold that F the day before you phoned.

How do you go to the continent? Chunnel or ferry?

Klaus

Well, at least it looks they have quite a lot of space in their shop:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/compinfo_tour_2.html" target="_blank" target="_blank

I thought about traveling there about a year ago, when I was looking for a new F-tuba. They for instance had two Willson F-tubas, which could´ve been intresting to try. (I ended up buying a PT11 from Finland)

[tubajazzo]

Hi Neptune,
if you come to Germany and want to try some tubas, I recommend FMB
http://www.fmb-direkt.de/
They are in Guetersloh which is in the northern part of Germany. They have a lot of tubas to try out. Phone and ask if they have something on stock you are interested in.

Gerd

[Wyvern]

Thanks Gerd - I have not heard of that shop before!

I see they claim to have 6/4 Rudy BBb. Now that would be worth a try if actually in stock

[oedipoes]

Thanks Gerd - I have not heard of that shop before!

I see they claim to have 6/4 Rudy BBb. Now that would be worth a try if actually in stock

they don't claim to have on on stock:
"wenn auf Lager innerhalb von 48h" means that IF on stock, they could deliver within 48 hours.

Rudy brings the 6/4 to Frankfurt every year, I you would like to try one.

[oedipoes]

Hi Neptune,
if you come to Germany and want to try some tubas, I recommend FMB
http://www.fmb-direkt.de/
They are in Guetersloh which is in the northern part of Germany. They have a lot of tubas to try out. Phone and ask if they have something on stock you are interested in.

Gerd

Hey, Gutersloh appears to be between my home and Hamburg (Gronitz...)
maybe I should make a stop there if I make it to gronitz for trying a PBK (they will have one finished by november)

Thanks !

wim (germany is a great country for tubas...)

[Rick Denney]

maybe I should make a stop there if I make it to gronitz for trying a PBK (they will have one finished by november)

I'm looking forward to your report on the PBK. Please take a camera. I'll host the pictures if you don't have a place to do so.

Rick "for whom this has been one of the more interesting mystery tubas" Denney

[oedipoes]

maybe I should make a stop there if I make it to gronitz for trying a PBK (they will have one finished by november)

I'm looking forward to your report on the PBK. Please take a camera. I'll host the pictures if you don't have a place to do so.

Rick "for whom this has been one of the more interesting mystery tubas" Denney

okido !

[oedipoes]

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Stefan,

Did you get the opportunity to test the Meister Nirschl BBb Thomann Model?
Looks very nice on their website...

thx,

Wim